# Are these "Wolfenstein" jets for real?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-these-wolfenstein-jets-for-real/203696
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [September 25, 2003, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-these-wolfenstein-jets-for-real/203696 "2003-09-25T05:57:43Z")
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### Author:  [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2003, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-these-wolfenstein-jets-for-real/203696/1 "2003-09-25T05:57:43Z")
Potential “Return to Castle Wolfenstein” **SPOILERS** , if it’s an issue.
In the FPS game “Return to Castle Wolfenstein,” the player at one point encounters a couple of hi-tech prototype aircraft at a Luftwaffe base. [this](http://www.home.pon.net/phoebeg/mysteryjet.jpg) is the first, [this](http://www.home.pon.net/phoebeg/mysterjet2.jpg) is the second.
Now, obviously, I’d assume at first that the game’s creators just made up some “scary Luftwaffe prototypes” from whole cloth, just to plug in as scenery…but, later on in the game, you encounter an aircraft clearly modeled after the [Bachem “Natter” rocket plane.](http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/WWII/natter/nat.htm) And that leaves me to wonder…are the _other_ two “mystery planes” in the game modeled after actual, if unbuilt, WWII designs? And, if so, which ones?
Well, thanks for your patience,
Ranchoth
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### Author:  [@Earthworm\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earthworm_Jim)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2003, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-these-wolfenstein-jets-for-real/203696/2 "2003-09-25T10:35:38Z")
Just from appearances, I think it’s quite clear the second is a combo of the [F-117](http://www.af.mil/news/factsheets/F_117A_Nighthawk.html) and the [B-2](http://www.af.mil/news/factsheets/B_2_Spirit.html)
The first seems familiar, I’ll see if I can place it.
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### Author:  [@jinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jinty)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2003, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-these-wolfenstein-jets-for-real/203696/3 "2003-09-25T12:07:18Z")
[Luftwaffe 46](http://www.luft46.com/) is the place to go. It’s got profiles of every mad, bad & dangerous to know prototype the Luftwaffe ever dreamed of, jet-propelled or otherwise.