# Are they that effin' stupid?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2016, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391 "2016-10-13T05:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/21 "2016-10-13T15:20:17Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> How fuckin’ stupid are these people?

Ah, grasshopper, sit down. How much time do you have? _\<pours tea\>_

> [@E-DUB](#):
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> It should also be pointed out that these are the people who delight in saying that they don’t believe the media.

We have met the media and they are us.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/22 "2016-10-13T16:32:31Z")

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**Are they that effin’ stupid?**

> [@E-DUB](#):
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> My wife is on Facebook…

I think you answered your own question there, amigo (emphasis added)! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/23 "2016-10-13T16:45:03Z")

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For some reason Facebook’s algorithm has turned into a troll: it keeps showing me memes posted by friends of friends whom I’ve never met.

My favorite shows Clinton grinning as confetti falls, and it says, “Is that confetti or 30000 shredded emails?”

My friend pointed out the basic misconception inherent in this decription of email :).

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/24 "2016-10-13T17:10:42Z")

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The two most recent examples that made me ask this same question, both from yesterday…

1. There is a newly released audio tape of Tim Kaine screaming obscenities at his daughter. (Its actually the infamous Alec Baldwin tape of 2007).

2. A woman was interviewed at a Trump rally by Sopan Deb of the NYT. She states 3 times in the interview that she cannot support Hillary because Hillary will make it illegal to say Merry Christmas if elected.

So yes, they are that effing dumb.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/25 "2016-10-13T17:13:15Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> It should also be pointed out that these are the people who delight in saying that they don’t believe the media.

One wonders where, if all media is in the tank for Clinton, Trump’s supporters learned of his awesomeness.

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**Author:** ![Psychopants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Psychopants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Psychopants)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/26 "2016-10-13T17:18:43Z")

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I think this place, especially the pit, is a safe haven from them. I’m planning to emerge fully from lurkdom in order to preserve my own sanity. I don’t know any really stupid people IRL, and the friends of friends FB thing and twitter have scared the bejesus out of me.

And who in their right mind would allow Ben Carson to operate on their BRAIN?

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/27 "2016-10-13T17:29:26Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> It should also be pointed out that these are the people who delight in saying that they don’t believe the media.

Right. We’re sheeple. Now Facebook quotes without citations or even context that happen to confirm preconceived beliefs, that’s truth.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/28 "2016-10-13T20:54:23Z")

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I keep some friends on Facebook from communities I’m not really familiar with. I’m not going to believe what they say just because they posted something but I do like seeing their point-of-view. Silly things like “They’re launching rockets out of Gaza again, I better check the filters in my gas mask.”

Just a slice of life from someplace I’ve never been …

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/29 "2016-10-13T22:15:50Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> One of my favorite recent ones was a friend of a friend who posted some anti-vax claim, and said, ''I don’t care if it’s true or not, I’m never vaccinating my kids and that’s final."

We’re in cubes so I couldn’t help but overhear my colleague this morning talking about how she’s never had a flu shot and she’s never been sick, and flu shots are just a conspiracy of big business raking in the bucks.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/30 "2016-10-13T23:46:17Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> My favorite shows Clinton grinning as confetti falls, and it says, “Is that confetti or 30000 shredded emails?”

Actually I think that’s moderately witty. I mean it’s factually unrealistic for the reason you point out, but a lot of jokes are metaphorical rather than accurate. Good right wing humour is usually pretty hard to come by, PJ O’Rourke excepted. I’d give it a 6.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/31 "2016-10-14T00:43:14Z")

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Many of them will be too stupid to find the correct place for them to vote on the correct date. Trump himself recently urged people to get out and vote _on the wrong date._

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/32 "2016-10-14T00:50:14Z")

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> [@Mr.Duality](#):
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> Many of them will be too stupid to find the correct place for them to vote on the correct date. Trump himself recently urged people to get out and vote _on the wrong date._

Maybe he really is in cahoots with Hillary. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/33 "2016-10-14T01:26:18Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> Actually I think that’s moderately witty. I mean it’s factually unrealistic for the reason you point out, but a lot of jokes are metaphorical rather than accurate. Good right wing humour is usually pretty hard to come by, PJ O’Rourke excepted. I’d give it a 6.

Nah, the unintentional hilarity raises it to a 7.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/34 "2016-10-14T01:58:20Z")

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> [@Mr.Duality](#):
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> Many of them will be too stupid to find the correct place for them to vote on the correct date. Trump himself recently urged people to get out and vote _on the wrong date._

If there was a mass effort to put up candidates all over the country called Truump and Trumpp and Tromp and Troump, I wonder how many of his supporters would lose their way on the journey to trying to vote for Trump.

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**Author:** ![urban1a](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e47c2d/32.png) [@urban1a](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urban1a)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/35 "2016-10-14T02:07:07Z")

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I spend some time on Facebook but when I post something which attempts to correct a statement made by one of the people the OP is talking about, I almost always include a link to something that will back up what I just said (guess where I learned that?). Whether anyone reads these links or not, I have no way of knowing.

I haven’t used a Snopes link yet. I’ll have to remember to do that.

Bob

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**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/36 "2016-10-14T23:14:26Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> If there was a mass effort to put up candidates all over the country called Truump and Trumpp and Tromp and Troump, I wonder how many of his supporters would lose their way on the journey to trying to vote for Trump.

Sadly, it’s far too late to get any other names on the ballot.

**Bob** , Politifact and [factcheck.org](http://factcheck.org) are excellent references too.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/37 "2016-10-15T14:45:54Z")

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It’s just been announced that Ruth Bader Ginsburg has endorsed the Pope for President.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/38 "2016-10-16T01:46:49Z")

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Yes, they are.

I just got an e-mail from my mother containing a story about Hillary Clinton that’s obviously a joke, with the subject line “TRUE STORY” in caps.

And scarier, it was forwarded three times with that subject line!

Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-they-that-effin-stupid/768391/39 "2016-10-16T05:08:16Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> One wonders where, if all media is in the tank for Clinton, Trump’s supporters learned of his awesomeness.

Because they’re smarter than everyone else. Isn’t that the central part of any CT?

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