# Are We Fallen Angels? again

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 1, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-fallen-angels-again/573004 "2011-03-01T01:51:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-fallen-angels-again/573004/61 "2011-03-02T03:12:54Z")

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The word Jesus uses for Judas (_diabolos_) actually means “slanderer,” or “false accuser,” though it also could be used more generally for someone who was working against God.

Jesus flat out calls Peter, “Satan,” though, albeit he is clearly being figurative.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-fallen-angels-again/573004/62 "2011-03-02T05:39:27Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Come on XT, everybody knows that L.A. is, in fact, on the Earth.

No, it’s in California.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-fallen-angels-again/573004/63 "2011-03-02T06:37:42Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And your source for this obviously non-biblical based story is…?

Source, schmource. Wikitheology lets _anybody_ post and edit articles…

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-fallen-angels-again/573004/64 "2011-03-02T13:13:32Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> The word Jesus uses for Judas (_diabolos_) actually means “slanderer,” or “false accuser,” though it also could be used more generally for someone who was working against God.
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> Jesus flat out calls Peter, “Satan,” though, albeit he is clearly being figurative.

I would say that Peter was still being refined and the words of Satan came through Peter at that time. Just as Jesus addressed demons inside a person, Jesus was speaking to Satan inside Peter. Though for Peter it was not his core being. n

This is a example of the gift of the Holy Spirit called distinguishing between the spirits in the NT.

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