# Are we losing it?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 1, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655 "2015-09-01T23:43:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/21 "2015-09-02T00:22:06Z")

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It seems that English isn’t his first language - although I thought Norwegians typically studied it from an early age.

ETA: OP confirmed just as I posted.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/22 "2015-09-02T00:25:11Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> It seems that English isn’t his first language - although I thought Norwegians typically studied it from an early age.

We’re also drunk from an early age. Sometimes the two cancel each other out.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/23 "2015-09-02T00:27:05Z")

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Yeah and artists are usually trained in the academic language called “astral-wanking”. I sin\*\*\*celery \*\*\*apologize.

Edit: Wow I spelled my bad joke wrong.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/24 "2015-09-02T00:33:40Z")

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Anyway:

The news is the news. The world is the world. The two overlap only very approximately.

And your life is your life. If you think it sucks: Good. That’s the first step. If you don’t take any steps to improve it, though, that’s your own damned fault. Take responsibility for that, too.

If a voice in your head is telling you that you need to stop being an art student and find a career that will pay your bills, then maybe you should listen to it. Your future self, a decade or so from now, may well thank you for it.

Or follow your dreams. Whatever. I don’t really care.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/25 "2015-09-02T00:35:11Z")

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It’s not the spelling. You haven’t done a good job at all explaining what you are asking. Are we on the right track? The right track FOR WHAT?

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/26 "2015-09-02T00:38:08Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> Yeah and artists are usually trained in the academic language called “astral-wanking”. I sin\*\*\*celery \*\*\*apologize.
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> Edit: Wow I spelled my bad joke wrong.

I need the joke explained to me.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/27 "2015-09-02T00:38:46Z")

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This is what drunk college students wanna talk about these days?

Clearly, we’re doomed!

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/28 "2015-09-02T00:39:58Z")

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This is what drunk college students wanna talk about these days? (We had more passionate and informed discussions jogging to the Cinnabon!)

Clearly, we’re doomed!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/29 "2015-09-02T00:40:33Z")

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What time is it in Norway? Must be close to 2AM, _nei_? Pass the _akevitt_!

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/30 "2015-09-02T00:40:43Z")

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I have my battles, but I have a good life. I do whatever I can for people I care about, and I know those people would do the same. But I could probably do a lot more. I’m trying locally, and I do help in certain different ways, even with direct monetary support, but is it enough? I’m just asking for opinions, or what some dopers would call assurances.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/31 "2015-09-02T00:41:49Z")

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klokka er ti over halv tre!

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/32 "2015-09-02T00:43:03Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> klokka er ti over halv tre!

Gå til sengs. Skal du ikke opp i morra?

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/33 "2015-09-02T00:43:58Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> I’m a fucking art student

> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> That’s my favorite kind of art student.

I have to give credit where its due:

Do you have Any Idea how hard it is to draw students fucking in charcoal!?

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/34 "2015-09-02T00:48:18Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> Gå til sengs. Skal du ikke opp i morra?

Nei, jeg studerer i holland, hvor de er litt mindre flinke med tidsfrister.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/35 "2015-09-02T00:53:24Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> Nei, jeg studerer i holland, hvor de er litt mindre flinke med tidsfrister.

Holland? Høres bra ut. Skjønner ikke hva du klager på.

Og med det mener jeg: Jeg skjønner virkelig ikke hva du klager på, bokstavelig talt. Den originale posten din er litt uklar. Men sist gang jeg var i Holland var mine originale poster litt uklare også, for å si det sånn. Så det kan jo ha sin forklaring. 😉

Deilig Holland. Å, tenk å være ung igjen, og ha sjansen til å ta masse dårlige beslutninger…

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/36 "2015-09-02T00:56:13Z")

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Bork! Bork! Bork!

I did not mean to divert this into a discussion in _Norsk_. Probably should get back to English.

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/37 "2015-09-02T00:56:34Z")

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> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> I have to give credit where its due:
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> Do you have Any Idea how hard it is to draw \*\*students fucking \*\*in charcoal!?

I didn’t even know it was a genre! Ignorance fought!

OP, if you’d said English wasn’t your first language from the start instead of the “not taking responsibility” crap, people would be much more forgiving. Instead you came off like an arrogant idiot, and people can’t get past it to answer your question. Whatever it is.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/38 "2015-09-02T00:57:01Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Bork! Bork! Bork!
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> I did not mean to divert this into a discussion in _Norsk_. Probably should get back to English.

Why? It looks like you’re following along wonderfully. 😉

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/39 "2015-09-02T00:58:46Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> Why? It looks like you’re following along wonderfully. 😉

I do speak a little, and I could get what you guys were talking about, having spent some wonderful time in Norway. You might want to be aware that there is actually a rule about posting in English on this MB. The mods are usually OK with a few words here and there, but not multiple posts.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-we-losing-it/729655/40 "2015-09-02T00:59:27Z")

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Tro du meg, holland er blitt fryktelig fjært. Man lærer ikke lenger å bruke kilder på ungdomsskolen, heller ikke å skrive fotnoter. De har et ganske stort problem i å være avhenging av russland for både olje og gass. De har også et stort problem i å ha brukt alt de hadde av midler til studenter som gjerne gjør værst i Nederland, mens de har nedprioritert bedre undervisning og utenlandsstudenter.

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