I see no signs at all that this is a Christian nation. Zero, zip nadda.
Pretty much sums up all we fear…
I see. Care to help me pack?
Depends how you define Christian. You could say that the majority are Christians purely in the sense that they are not Sikhs, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, worshippers of Og,etc.etc.
If you restrict it to those who actively follow Jesus Christ then it would be smaller I imagine. How you determine that I’ll leave you to sort out.
Mind you, in Britain they keep telling us we’re a multicultural nation.
2001 census:1% Jews,Hindus,Sikhs 2% Muslims 76% Christians…
The following paragraph presupposes the reversal of Roe v Wade, which seems unlikely to me.
Do you find a federal abortion law inconceivable (absent Roe v Wade)? I guess I don’t think that the GOP’s commitment to federalism would trump its pro choice leanings. The only reason I could see for Congress not to try and outlaw abortion (and thereby force a picture perfect Democratic filibuster) would be that if they succeeded the wedge is gone.
They honor and serve the Lord God of Israel, who is not a just God. Whether he exists or not, he is an evil abomination.
Nope, theres room for everyone.
Why?
I disagree.
I think y’all are being a little hasty. So vanilla is a Christian and likes Christians. Some of us are Liberal and Conservative and like the ideas of people of our own sort. We think that those ideas are better. I don’t remember reading that vanilla wants to put the heads of non-Christians on pikes in the National Mall. She just thinks that it is good to have people with ideas complementary to their own in office. It’s the same thing that the rest of us say.
I didn’t even say “in office.”
if it’s non-proselytizing, tolerant Christians who truly believe in the spirit of the commandment “Love your neighbor as yourself” and keep their noses and morals out of everyone’s personal business, than I can somewhat agree with your statement.
If it’s holier-than-thou Christian convertaholics who think abortion and homosexuality are the root of all societal problems, then, no.
Nonsense. Hardly any evangelicals dispute that some of the Founding Fathers were deists. They were in the minority, but they were there.
Are you sure you’re not missing the distinction between “theist” and “deist”?
Yep. My view too. I think that Bush is a God-schmooker. I have no problem with God-schmookers on the christian channel or something, but I don’t think that the White house is a good place to preach from. :dubious:
Franklin held different views at different times of his life. I don’t mind when people say that he was a Deist, but it would be more accurate to say that he appeared to profess deism at some point in his life. As with so many other people, his views appeared to change with time.
Sen Arlen Spector of Pennsylvania has specifically told President Bush not to start sending anti-Roe candidates to the Senate Judiciary Committee, of which he is the presumptive chairman. So it doesn’t look like that prediction will happen any time soon.
http://www.humanismbyjoe.com/Lincoln’s_religion.htm
That argues that Lincoln most likely was a Deist, and most certainly not a Christian. Exactly how strong Lincoln’s belief in god was is unclear.