# Are women more thoughtfull than men?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [January 10, 2013, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694 "2013-01-10T01:12:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/21 "2013-01-11T00:11:09Z")

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Dunno. I tend to do the thinking for them\*.

Male Chauvinists’ Pigs Club founding member,

MCPC, CEO

\*I could be wrong though 😉

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/22 "2013-01-11T00:16:50Z")

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> [@alnewman](#):
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> My question is are they more analytical then men as a whole.

I don’t think so. Men tend to be “more analytical” than women IMHO, although it’s typically a matter of quantity rather than quality of analysis.

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**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/23 "2013-01-11T00:57:35Z")

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I think this thread would fit in better in IMHO, 'cause it don’t look like nobody got anything but opinions posted up in here.

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**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/24 "2013-01-11T01:52:43Z")

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> [@alnewman](#):
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> Women tend to be more emotional then men in my experience (not putting a value on that… simply stating an hypothesis), but are women as a whole more thought full then men?

Dumb thread of course they are, no debate. By the way I’m a guy and I’ve dealt with both for over 50 years.

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/25 "2013-01-11T02:19:24Z")

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I haven’t noticed any particular difference in levels of thoughtfulness or emotion.

I have noticed that men and women sometimes differ in how they express thoughtfulness or emotion.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/26 "2013-01-11T02:42:21Z")

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> [@alnewman](#):
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> Women tend to be more emotional then men in my experience (not putting a value on that… simply stating an hypothesis), but are women as a whole more thought full then men?

Of course they are, my dear. Don’t worry your pretty little head about such things. _pat_pat\* Run along, now.

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**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/27 "2013-01-14T21:06:22Z")

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> [@PandaBear77](#):
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> I think both genders are equally self-absorbed. Most people are not thoughtful.

+1.

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/28 "2013-01-15T15:36:54Z")

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> [@alnewman](#):
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> Women tend to be more emotional then men in my experience (not putting a value on that… simply stating an hypothesis), but are women as a whole more thought full then men?

Define “thoughtful”.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/29 "2013-01-15T17:39:15Z")

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> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> Define “thoughtful”.

I thought you weren’t posting here anymore.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/30 "2013-01-15T17:47:17Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> I thought you weren’t posting here anymore.

Ever try giving up Dope? 😃

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/31 "2013-01-15T17:54:36Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> I thought you weren’t posting here anymore.

Then I decided that instead of giving up the Straight Dope completely, I will just stop using the Pit. No really though, define “thoughtful”.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/32 "2013-01-16T00:54:13Z")

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> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> Then I decided that instead of giving up the Straight Dope completely, I will just stop using the Pit. No really though, define “thoughtful”.

Well, sometimes it means “considerate” and sometimes it means “intellectual.”

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/33 "2013-01-16T01:19:12Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Well, sometimes it means “considerate” and sometimes it means “intellectual.”

Do you think women are more thoughtful than men?

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/34 "2013-01-16T02:16:15Z")

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Women have typically different social behavior than men. I am pretty dang sure about that. Emphasis on ‘typical’ – obviously there is a certain amount of overlap.

When I was about 18 I remember a dinner out with three other older-than-me women and a cute guy (who, in retrospect, I am sure was gay, not that this is germane), and at some point he stopped eating and said, “do you all realize that this is the third time someone has passed me the salt or something else on this table that I needed, before I asked for it?”

Yeah, he was cute and everything, but still. Women are better – much better – than men, at noticing subtle social behavior.

Probably it has a strong genetic component, because I never seem to read articles that say, “previously thought genetic component of behavior ruled out”, they always say, “new discoveries indicate genetics plays a larger role than previously thought in (you name it).”

I do not confuse compassion with social skills. I do not experience women as being more compassionate necessarily.

Also, that Seinfeld quote? Right on the money.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/35 "2013-01-16T03:26:36Z")

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I cannot speak for all men, and I can’t speak for any women. Thoughtfulness, regardless of your definition, is an individual thing.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/36 "2013-01-16T04:18:25Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Well, sometimes it means “considerate” and sometimes it means “intellectual.”

But, it is never spelled “thoughtfull,” nor “thought full.”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/37 "2013-01-16T04:20:03Z")

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> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> Do you think women are more thoughtful than men?

Yes, I do, in the sense of “considerate,” or, rather, “perceptive [not necessarily considerate\*] of the feelings/emotions of others.”

- [The female of the species is more deadly than the male.](http://www.potw.org/archive/potw96.html)

Unprovoked and awful charges—even so the she-bear fights,  
Speech that drips, corrodes, and poisons—even so the cobra bites,  
Scientific vivisection of one nerve till it is raw  
And the victim writhes in anguish—like the Jesuit with the squaw!

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/38 "2013-01-16T13:18:45Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Yes, I do, in the sense of “considerate,” or, rather, “perceptive [not necessarily considerate\*] of the feelings/emotions of others.”
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> - [The female of the species is more deadly than the male.](http://www.potw.org/archive/potw96.html)
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> Unprovoked and awful charges—even so the she-bear fights,  
> Speech that drips, corrodes, and poisons—even so the cobra bites,  
> Scientific vivisection of one nerve till it is raw  
> And the victim writhes in anguish—like the Jesuit with the squaw!

1. Is this what you are saying: women are more perceptive of the feelings and emotions of others, than men.

2. Do you think that women are more _intelligent_ than men?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/39 "2013-01-16T15:55:26Z")

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> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> 1. Is this what you are saying: women are more perceptive of the feelings and emotions of others, than men.

Yes. (On average.)

> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> 1. Do you think that women are more _intelligent_ than men?

No.

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-women-more-thoughtfull-than-men/646694/40 "2013-01-16T17:04:04Z")

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**BrainGlutton** , according to your definition of “thoughtful”, you said that it could sometimes mean “considerate”, while other times it could mean “intelligence”.

Then when I asked you if you thought women were more thoughtful than men, you said “yes, but not exactly” in terms of being “considerate”, not in terms of “intelligence”.

So for one to be more thoughtful than another that person will either have to be more “considerate” than him/her, or more “intelligent” than him/her. You have already ruled out intelligence as a possibility. So now we are left with “considerate” being a possibility.

If women are neither more “considerate” nor “intelligent” than men, than according to your definition of “thoughtful”, wouldn’t that answer “no” to the original question which is, “Are women more thoughtful than men,” Unless you edited your definition of “thoughtful”.

But before proceeding to any other questions, **I would like to ask you to define “considerate”**.

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