# Are You A Freemason?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 21, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283 "2010-03-21T23:27:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/21 "2010-03-23T01:09:26Z")

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There’s another thread about this somewhere. You’ve got to be a free-born, God-fearing male.

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/22 "2010-03-23T03:26:44Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Why not? Just curious. I am not a christian, but if you asked me to say I was for a delicious chocolate chip cookie, I would do it in a heart beat! It would be no different than me saying, “I’m a dolphin!”

Well HELL YEAH for a chocolate chip cookie! To be an Eastern Star though, not so much. 🙂

No really I don’t think I’d want to be part of an organization where you would feel the need to lie about your beliefs even for tradition’s sake.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/23 "2010-03-23T03:40:05Z")

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> [@Rushgeekgirl](#):
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> Well HELL YEAH for a chocolate chip cookie! To be an Eastern Star though, not so much. 🙂
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> No really I don’t think I’d want to be part of an organization where you would feel the need to lie about your beliefs even for tradition’s sake.

Yeah, as I thought of my question a bit deeper after asking it, I got where you were coming from.

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/24 "2010-03-23T21:12:38Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Yeah, as I thought of my question a bit deeper after asking it, I got where you were coming from.

Also it seemed like Rainbow was more Christian oriented. Several of the colors represented in the ceremonies had Christian based speeches. We had to learn to recite for ceremonial purposes all the stations, including representations in the colors of the rainbow. Orange was religion, green was immortality, etc. Then you moved on to the stations of Faith, Hope and Charity.

Could have just been our particular lodge though.

What I remember the most was how much fun it was to go out as a group after the meetings because we got the strangest looks, all twenty of us running around in our floor-length modest white dresses.

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**Author:** ![alexandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@alexandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alexandra)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/25 "2010-03-23T22:30:40Z")

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I do not believe **MeanOldLady**.

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**Author:** ![CateAyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@CateAyo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CateAyo)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/26 "2010-03-23T23:30:01Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Are non-whites even allowed/encouraged to join? Admittedly I’ve never thought about it and if I did I chalked it up to another old white boys club.

I am a Native American.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/27 "2010-03-23T23:40:23Z")

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> [@alexandra](#):
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> I do not believe **MeanOldLady**.

Why not?

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**Author:** ![tesseract](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@tesseract](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tesseract)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/28 "2010-03-24T03:43:07Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Please let someone who knows what they are talking about come get me out of this. Amen.

**Nzinga,** you crack me up. I love reading your posts.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/29 "2010-03-24T04:58:18Z")

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Nope, I’m a Stonecutter.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/30 "2010-03-24T06:27:14Z")

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> [@alexandra](#):
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> I do not believe **MeanOldLady**.

😕

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**Author:** ![alexandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@alexandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alexandra)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/31 "2010-03-24T08:32:38Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> 😕

Under the Yeses. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/32 "2010-03-24T14:10:35Z")

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Thanks, Nzinga, especially Redwing, for your informative and interesting posts. CateAyo, I did know you were NA. I hadn’t realized you were a mason also.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/33 "2010-03-24T14:18:44Z")

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> [@alexandra](#):
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> Under the Yeses. 🙂

Sigh. MOL is so stupid.

Tesseract, I’m glad I can pull a giggle outta ya!

ETA: Stupid = slang compliment.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/34 "2010-03-24T14:36:42Z")

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> [@alexandra](#):
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> Under the Yeses. 🙂

Can you explain why you don’t believe her? I don’t see any reason not to.

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**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/35 "2010-03-24T15:34:23Z")

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I am not a Freemason, do not intend to ever become a Freemason, and don’t care or know anything about what they do. Or at least that’s what I thought until recently. The thing is that I do know about the ceremonies that are performed in Mormon Temples. A few days ago I learned that Joseph Smith created the Mormon ceremonies by taking masonic ceremonies and changing a few words. So I guess I know more about Freemasonry than I previous thought.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/36 "2010-03-25T02:14:43Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Can you explain why you don’t believe her? I don’t see any reason not to.

Her vagina. Not that I can actually _see_ it, per se.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/37 "2010-03-25T02:19:14Z")

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According to wiki, there are some orders for women. Or do those not count as Free mason groups?

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/38 "2010-03-25T14:42:58Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Her vagina. Not that I can actually _see_ it, per se.

The OP asked if people are a member of Freemason **societies**.

The Order of the Eastern Star, Job’s Daughters, Rainbow Girls, are all societies affiliated with Freemasons that have women participants.

The Order of DeMolay as a Freemason associated society of teenage boys.

As a former member of Demolay I fit in a fuzzy area of the poll. I have been in a Freemason associated society but I do not plan to join the Freemasons.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/39 "2010-03-25T15:08:14Z")

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Folks, I am not a Freemason. I am --and this is true!-- a Stonecutter. I singlehandedly hold back the electric car.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-freemason/533283/40 "2010-03-25T15:12:55Z")

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Well, the title asks one thing and the body asks another, so you’ll forgive my confusion.

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