# Are you a hater? I am! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 3, 2005, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274 "2005-02-03T23:15:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Verminary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/71e660/32.png) [@Verminary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Verminary)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/1 "2005-02-03T23:15:27Z")
Way [over yonder](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=299309) in GD, **brickbacon** offers up a definition of a “hater.” I’m tossing this into the Pit because I can’t help but be repulsed by the label and I have nothing good to say about it. I’m _not_ pitting **brickbacon** , except maybe tangentially; I’m pitting the “hater” thing, and any use of “you” is purely in the generic sense. Got it? Good. Let’s roll. > [@brickbacon](#): > > Maybe you misunderstand what being a hater is. It’s being a snitch and/or putting your nose in other people’s business that doesn’t concern you. A person who turns in a serious criminal isn’t a hater. It’s when a person goes out of thier way to corcern themselves with minor issues. If you were at work reading the SDMB, and your co-worker told the boss you were slacking off, even though you consistantly get your work done, he would be a hater. If you turn in your neighbor for stealing cable or downloading a movie, then you are a hater. It is basic respect. Stay out of other people’s business when it doesn’t concern you. Yes, Virginia, there are [nosy, lying bastards](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=299539) aplenty in this world. There are busybodies and snoops and control freaks and all kinds of people who like nothing better than to give you a colonoscopy with their pointed, twitchy little noses. And certainly nobody likes a tattletale, particularly the octogenarian bachelor with a vendetta against those who dare to flush toilets past the sacred hour of ten PM. But when did this whole “hater” thing start? And who buys into this shit? Labeling the person who confronts you as a “hater” is a transparent attempt to deflect responsibility away from your wrongdoing and onto the person who caught you. Your brains have twisted up, turned black and crawled out onto your pillow if you think I’m failing to show “basic respect” by turning a blind eye to your petty thefts, your constant screwing off on company time, or your fervent belief that the fire lane outside my window is a dandy place for all your pals to park because you can’t be bothered to shamble your saggy-pants asses the extra fifteen feet to the empty spaces across the way. If there’s a fire, I’m going to be out there using your Honda as a platform to hose down my roof. And I’ll be wearing cleats. Perhaps the language I’m using makes it sound like I hate you. I don’t. I may think you’re an inconsiderate asshole, but that is a transient state which can be remedied by the careful application of a rolled-up newspaper. If I hated you, I’d skip the newspaper and go straight to the baseball bat. What I hate are your _actions_, and they’ve got to be patently immoral, illegal, or dangerous before I’ll confront you about it, much less report your ass to the Powers That Be. If that makes me a “hater,” I want my bumper sticker so I can wear the label with pride. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/2 "2005-02-03T23:31:09Z")
As I recall, “hater” originated in hip-hop culture as a way to dismiss someone excessively critical or jealous of a “player.” As you can imagine, the “player” is the hero of this particular narrative… the guy with the best clothes, the best cars, with the best women, and the best… uhmmm… “business enterprises.” One popular technique of the hater is to “throw salt” in the player’s “game” by reporting a player’s illegal activities (actual or imagined) to the police. So, over time, “hater” has been generalized into a term to dismiss someone as a “snitch”, “rival”, “persecutor”, or “someone who said something bad about me.” As with many hip-hop terms, the precise definition is fluid and varies depending on who and what is popular in music or film on any given month. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/3 "2005-02-03T23:31:53Z")
Now, **Verminary** , don’t be hatin’. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/4 "2005-02-03T23:44:03Z")
Hate is an emotion. You gotta put out energy to hate. I prefer to not give a fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/5 "2005-02-03T23:47:34Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > I prefer to not give a fuck. You should try it sometime, it might give you a new hobby. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Anastasaeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Anastasaeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anastasaeon)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/6 "2005-02-03T23:53:31Z")
Wow. My husband and his brother use this term all the time, but only when referring to someone who is jealous of another. I’ve have never heard it used to imply a snitch of any sort. My husband is white, but he was surrounded by hip-hop culture growing up - at the school he attended, _he_ was a minority. He manages to pull it off… he’s not so over-the-top that he acts like a white guy pretending he’s a black guy, he just sounds like a guy who grew up with the culture. Here is what I found for [hater](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hater&r=f). The snitch thing is new to me, and a little confusing, but I admit, I learn something new every day, and this is something I know little about. I’ll ask hubby when he gets home if he’s ever used it for that reason, or if anyone he knows has. Maybe it’s regional? ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/7 "2005-02-03T23:57:53Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > I prefer to not give a fuck. I do give a fuck. I be giving a fuck to your momma, bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/8 "2005-02-04T00:36:13Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > You should try it sometime, it might give you a new hobby. > > 😃 Seen many duhbya bashing posts by me lately? ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/9 "2005-02-04T00:37:22Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > I do give a fuck. I be giving a fuck to your momma, bitch. My mommas been dead ten years. Did you enjoy it? ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/10 "2005-02-04T00:42:20Z")
> [@Anastasaeon](#): > > Here is what I found for [hater](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hater&r=f). I particularly liked definition #2: > [@](#): > > 1. hater > A word that stupid people use to help you spot them quickly. It can also be spelled “h8r”. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/11 "2005-02-04T00:58:44Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > My mommas been dead ten years. Condolences. It was just a bad joke that I thought was on topic. I hope you took it as such. It was never my intention to offend or scratch a wound. ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/12 "2005-02-04T01:03:19Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > I do give a fuck. I be giving a fuck to your momma, bitch. You can’t “be giving a fuck”. You can “be giving fucks”. > [@Reeder](#): > > Did you enjoy it? _Do_ you enjoy it. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/13 "2005-02-04T01:10:13Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > You can’t “be giving a fuck”. You can “be giving fucks”. > > _Do_ you enjoy it. It don’t mean shit to a tree. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/14 "2005-02-04T01:54:32Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Condolences. It was just a bad joke that I thought was on topic. I hope you took it as such. It was never my intention to offend or scratch a wound. On a message board. You are what you post. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/15 "2005-02-04T03:12:30Z")
Kinda vague, **Reeder** , but I take it we’re cool? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/16 "2005-02-04T16:09:53Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > Seen many duhbya bashing posts by me lately? No, but you’re still going after the Pubs. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/17 "2005-02-04T16:41:51Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > I do give a fuck. I be giving a fuck to your momma, bitch. Hate to be a stickler for proper grammer, but I believe it should be _ **yo** _ momma. ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/18 "2005-02-04T16:44:04Z")
Oh, and btw **AMWAG** , my moms says you couldn’t get it up. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/19 "2005-02-04T16:45:42Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Kinda vague, **Reeder** , but I take it we’re cool? Um…it’s _ **we’s** _ coo/, or even _ **we’s coo** _. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/20 "2005-02-04T16:51:47Z")
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