# Are you a hater? I am! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 3, 2005, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274 "2005-02-03T23:15:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/21 "2005-02-04T17:34:51Z")
Don’t hate the player, hate the mayor. (I don’t know what that means but I heard it on Def Poetry Jam) ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/22 "2005-02-04T17:41:37Z")
I think all y’all been drinkin’ that Haterade. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/23 "2005-02-04T18:44:16Z")
**vetbridge** , ax yo sister about her name. We call her “bowling ball”. Pick her up, finger her, throw her to the _damn_ ally, and she just comes back for more. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/24 "2005-02-04T18:45:59Z")
Fuck. coding. ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/25 "2005-02-04T18:57:37Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > **vetbridge** , ax yo sister about her name. We call her “bowling ball”. Pick her up, finger her, throw her to the _damn_ ally, and she just comes back for more. ?She be tellin me she comin back fo _ **mo** _. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/26 "2005-02-04T19:19:44Z")
Every time I see the word hater this [song](http://www.offspring.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Offspring.woa/wa/lyrics?releaseID=73&startingTrackNumber=5) plays in my head. [Hear it here, if you’re so inclined.](http://www.sonymusic.com/clips/selection/fu/067810/067810_01_05_full_100.asx) Warning: This song is pretty damn catchy. Don’t be surprised if your humming it when some hater comes along. ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/27 "2005-02-04T22:22:50Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > Maybe you misunderstand what being a hater is. It’s being a snitch and/or putting your nose in other people’s business that doesn’t concern you. A person who turns in a serious criminal isn’t a hater. It’s when a person goes out of thier way to corcern themselves with minor issues. If you were at work reading the SDMB, and your co-worker told the boss you were slacking off, even though you consistantly get your work done, he would be a hater. If you turn in your neighbor for stealing cable or downloading a movie, then you are a hater. It is basic respect. Stay out of other people’s business when it doesn’t concern you. I wish to submit that a ‘hater’ is more of a jealousy/anger type thing, where as the description above more likely suits the word ‘killjoy’. Subtle difference, IMO. Examples of Hatin’: If you hate the guy that gets the girl, you’re a hater. If you hate Ja Rule over 50 Cent, you’re a hater. If you you’re mad at everything, and make snide remarks about stupid shit, you’re a hater. (Maybe you’ve heard it. Ever been accused of drinking hatorade? :eek: ) These are examples of being a hater. Where as a killjoy would do the snitching type stuff. Also the type that likes to ruin everyones fun. ---
**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/28 "2005-02-04T22:38:26Z")
Don’t hate. Fellate! ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/29 "2005-02-04T23:02:43Z")
Y’all be dumbin down “hater.” My daddy a hater, till he dead. He hate every damn body he see. Lessn dey be white and den he hate’em later. Y’all aint studied no hater like him. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/30 "2005-02-05T00:11:53Z")
Argh! Speak English, people! ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/31 "2005-02-05T04:41:52Z")
> [@ParentalAdvisory](#): > > I wish to submit that a ‘hater’ is more of a jealousy/anger type thing, where as the description above more likely suits the word ‘killjoy’. Subtle difference, IMO. > > Examples of Hatin’: > > If you hate the guy that gets the girl, you’re a hater. > If you hate Ja Rule over 50 Cent, you’re a hater. > If you you’re mad at everything, and make snide remarks about stupid shit, you’re a hater. (Maybe you’ve heard it. Ever been accused of drinking hatorade? :eek: ) > > These are examples of being a hater. Where as a killjoy would do the snitching type stuff. Also the type that likes to ruin everyones fun. True, my definition was far from complete. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/32 "2005-02-05T04:43:41Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > Hate is an emotion. You gotta put out energy to hate. > > I prefer to not give a fuck. I think I’m in this camp as well. Too much energy to hate. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/33 "2005-02-05T05:05:34Z")
> [@Verminary](#): > > Way [over yonder](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=299309) in GD, **brickbacon** offers up a definition of a “hater.” I’m tossing this into the Pit because I can’t help but be repulsed by the label and I have nothing good to say about it. I’m _not_ pitting **brickbacon** , except maybe tangentially; I’m pitting the “hater” thing, and any use of “you” is purely in the generic sense. Got it? Good. Let’s roll. Yes, Virginia, there are [nosy, lying bastards](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=299539) aplenty in this world. There are busybodies and snoops and control freaks and all kinds of people who like nothing better than to give you a colonoscopy with their pointed, twitchy little noses. And certainly nobody likes a tattletale, particularly the octogenarian bachelor with a vendetta against those who dare to flush toilets past the sacred hour of ten PM. > > But when did this whole “hater” thing start? And who buys into this shit? Most people “buy into this shit”. Thats why people hate tattletales. The general thing people take exception to, in both cases, is similar. People didn’t label these people as hater until recently, but the sentiment has been there. > [@Verminary](#): > > Labeling the person who confronts you as a “hater” is a transparent attempt to deflect responsibility away from your wrongdoing and onto the person who caught you. Your brains have twisted up, turned black and crawled out onto your pillow if you think I’m failing to show “basic respect” by turning a blind eye to your petty thefts, your constant screwing off on company time, or your fervent belief that the fire lane outside my window is a dandy place for all your pals to park because you can’t be bothered to shamble your saggy-pants asses the extra fifteen feet to the empty spaces across the way. If there’s a fire, I’m going to be out there using your Honda as a platform to hose down my roof. And I’ll be wearing cleats. You seem to be getting a little too emotional about all these things. You shouldn’t take these things personally. If it doesn’t affect you, why do you care if someone is screwing off on company time? I could see if you had some stake in it. If you have a friendship with the boss/owner, or something like that. Otherwise, it just seems to me like meddling. The label has nothing to do with deflecting blame. A person is responsible for his or her own actions. I don’t know where you get this idea from. > [@Verminary](#): > > Perhaps the language I’m using makes it sound like I hate you. I don’t. I may think you’re an inconsiderate asshole, but that is a transient state which can be remedied by the careful application of a rolled-up newspaper. If I hated you, I’d skip the newspaper and go straight to the baseball bat. What I hate are your _actions_, and they’ve got to be patently immoral, illegal, or dangerous before I’ll confront you about it, much less report your ass to the Powers That Be. If that makes me a “hater,” I want my bumper sticker so I can wear the label with pride. I’ll get going on that bumper sticker for you. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/34 "2005-02-05T05:37:17Z")
> [@vetbridge](#): > > Um…it’s _ **we’s** _ coo/, or even _ **we’s coo** _. > [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > **vetbridge** , ax yo sister about her name. We call her “bowling ball”. Pick her up, finger her, throw her to the _damn_ ally, and she just comes back for more. > [@LouisB](#): > > Y’all be dumbin down “hater.” My daddy a hater, till he dead. He hate every damn body he see. Lessn dey be white and den he hate’em later. Y’all aint studied no hater like him. > [@JThunder](#): > > Argh! Speak English, people! Exactly when are we gonna get past the point in which any slang used by the hip-hop community is an excuse for some asshole to trot out thier worst ebonics impression. Please take note: **This is not funny, nor was it ever particularly funny**. It is thinly veiled racism and is extremely annoying to see on a regular basis. There is not good argument why hip-hop/balck slang is more disruptive, discordant, or unintelligible than any other colloquial language. This is not a matter of liguistic interference, it a matter of arrogance and prejudice. If you have a problem with the way the term “hater” was applied, I can understand that. What I don’t understand is the repudiation of anything one might consider “black slang”. For a group of supposedly tolerent people, many of you can be surprisingly narrow minded and bigoted. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/35 "2005-02-05T05:51:14Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > **This is not funny, nor was it ever particularly funny**. It’s a hell of a lot funnier than seeing some amoral fuckwit cheat their way into a position at the expense of honest, better qualified persons. Don’t you be hatin bad humor **brickbacon** , there are so many things _more worthy_ of your derision. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/36 "2005-02-05T07:07:19Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > What I don’t understand is the repudiation of anything one might consider “black slang”. For a group of supposedly tolerent people, many of you can be surprisingly narrow minded and bigoted. Don’y you be hatin’, \*_brickbacon_. C’mon, man. “yo momma” jokes _are_ funny. They actually have a pretty decent comedic traditon. Now, with me being whiter than a loaf of wonderbread, I can’t tell them nearly as well as some other people. I assume that’s why Comedy Central won’t return my phone calls. But Jesus, man, lighten the fuck up. Just because you and _pizzabrat_ don’t think us crackers can conjugate “be” correctly doesn’t mean we’re racist. ---
**Author:** ![TonyF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@TonyF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonyF)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/37 "2005-02-05T07:35:03Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > You seem to be getting a little too emotional about all these things. You shouldn’t take these things personally. If it doesn’t affect you, why do you care if someone is screwing off on company time? I could see if you had some stake in it. If you have a friendship with the boss/owner, or something like that. Otherwise, it just seems to me like meddling. You are as short-sighted and clueless as most of your generation. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/38 "2005-02-05T07:41:17Z")
> [@TonyF](#): > > You are as short-sighted and clueless as most of your generation. I guess we could call it the “hatest generation.” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/39 "2005-02-05T08:14:55Z")
This bears repeating: > [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Fuck. coding. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274/40 "2005-02-05T10:32:39Z")
I was cut out of my dear Daddy’s will because I refused to subscribe to his racist beliefs. To him, the white people were the masters and people of any other color were servants and just barely human. People of mixed parentage were “mongrels” in his view. He actually and truly severed relations with one of his grand daughters because she married a man whose daughter by a previous marriage had a child fathered by her black husband. I am not a racist and I resent being branded as one. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-hater-i-am/288274.md?page=3)