# Are you a racist? Warning signs **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 7, 2014, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519 "2014-07-07T08:12:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 77
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1521 "2020-09-14T17:16:46Z")
Yes I get it. It’s all racism. I am married to a minority, with half minority kids, have many minority nieces … Yup! ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1522 "2020-09-14T17:29:50Z")
Cool story. But thanks for acknowledging your pitting. ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1523 "2020-09-14T17:44:45Z")
👌 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1524 "2020-09-14T18:19:56Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > Yes I get it. > > It’s all racism. I am married to a minority, with half minority kids, have many minority nieces … > > Yup! Why would this mean you weren’t racist? If people of color can be racist, then marrying one doesn’t make you not racist, either. Even if you aren’t racist towards the specific minority you are married to, there are other minorities. I mean, ZPG\_Zealot. a Rom, seems to be racist towards black people, for example. It seems to me that, if you must argue you aren’t racist, then you need to rebut the accusation that what you said was racist. As it is, you’re arguing a bunch of pretty ignorant stuff about race. You’re pushing the idea that equality of opportunity has been achieved.That doesn’t make sense if equality of outcome hasn’t been achieved beforehand. If not, then people of color are starting from a worse position than others, and thus do not have equality of opportunity. Equality of opportunity means starting from the same baseline. Refusing to accept this despite the data staring you in the face can be a sign of racism. You’re also trying to argue that there are aspects of white culture that are inherently successful, when there are not, because success cannot be objectively defined. There is nothing exclusive to white culture that is successful. There are just values that white people have and see as success, which may or may not agree with what other cultures deem success. And the whole requirement of diversity and multiculturalism is that these different criteria can exist side by side, and not have one that dominates the other. It all fits under just world hypothesis bullshit, where the problems minorities face are their own fault, while ignoring what the majority have done to them and how it would affect them. Hell, there’s BLM now–black people have to protest not being treated as criminals by cops and not being unnecessarily killed. That’s not equality of opportunity if black people in a rich neighborhood get assumed to be criminals. Unarmed black people get shot and killed while armed white people get arrested without being killed. That’s not equality. ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1525 "2020-09-14T18:26:32Z")
Ok! What I said wasn’t racist. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1526 "2020-09-14T20:21:26Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > 👌 I’m sure you “totally” meant that as an “Okay” sign. Totally. ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1527 "2020-09-14T20:23:04Z")
LOL! What else is it meant as? ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1528 "2020-09-14T20:39:59Z")
LOL! What an odd question. I said I totally believed you. I even used “totally” twice and put it in quotes the first time to make it stand out. How much more emphatic can I be? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1529 "2020-09-14T20:40:41Z")
Oh Ok then! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1530 "2020-09-16T03:06:46Z")
I’m not sure you’re a racist, but contrary to popular belief, loving some Black people (or loving some individual minorities) does not give any information as to whether you’re a racist or not. Racism does not imply that one hates every single individual from another race. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1531 "2020-09-16T03:13:07Z")
No, it totally means that. Similarly, the BTK strangler was married to a woman, so he clearly didn’t hate women. Logic! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1532 "2020-09-16T03:13:45Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > What else is it meant as? It’s often used to show support for white supremacy. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1533 "2020-09-16T03:35:26Z")
> [@JEngelman](#): > > It amazes me how Dopers still assume that we’re all white people. I guess they think black people are too busy fulfilling negative stereotypes to type on a message board. Wait…what?! 😮 ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1534 "2020-09-16T03:40:13Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Are you a racist? As many posts in this board have shown, some people are racists without knowing it. So here’s a handy list of warning signs. > > Do other people accuse you of being a racist? > > Do you start statements with the words “I’m not a racist but…”? > > Are there things you say about other races that you wouldn’t say in front of somebody belonging to that race? > > Do you check to see if anybody of another race is in earshot before saying things about that race? > > When you make comments or tell jokes about other races, do the people around you look at you strangely and leave the area? > > Do you find yourself defending other people who have been accused of racism? > > Do you base these arguments on unusual definitions of terms like race, racism, racist, or other words? > > When you hear that somebody has been accused of racism, do you instinctively take the side of the accused over the accuser? > > When you hear people calling somebody else racist, do you find yourself thinking that you’ve said or done the same thing that other person did? > > Do you think that other people agree with your views on race but are afraid to say so? > > Do you think there’s a double standard on race? > > Do you ever ask how far anti-racism is going to go? > > Do you have views on subjects that aren’t racial - freedom of speech, freedom of association, property rights, states rights, heritage - that you only care about in racial terms? You forgot a couple: When there is a discussion about a clearly race-based incident, you become furiously defensive of white people. You give extremely long, detailed, pseudo-scientific explanations for why people shouldn’t be offended by your clearly racist positions are…and not of those reasons are “not racist”. ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1535 "2020-09-16T13:34:30Z")
Max was kind enough to message me the hijacked meaning of the OK sign, so I won’t be using it in the future. But I appreciate the benefit of the doubt, unlike some people who would rather assume I meant something else. It is that jump that creates the Us vs Them that is easy to rail against (or dismiss). Demonize me and you don’t feel the need to converse. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1536 "2020-09-16T13:54:23Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > But I appreciate the benefit of the doubt, unlike some people who would rather assume I meant something else. Oh, fuck off you racist shit. ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1537 "2020-09-16T13:56:34Z")
Still assuming I see. Have a great day my man. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1538 "2020-09-16T20:29:22Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > Yes I get it. > > It’s all racism. I am married to a minority, with half minority kids, have many minority nieces … > > Yup! I really like “I have minority nieces,” as a defense to a charge of racism, like that’s something that was up to you. “I didn’t physically prevent my sibling from fucking a nonwhite person! That proves I’m not racist!” ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1539 "2020-09-16T20:50:54Z")
Nah, the love I have for them proves , to me, that I am not a racist along with me knowing myself and motivations…I personally could give a shit if some random people on the internet think differently, however it colors arguments and it should be disallowed here, but isn’t. So, knock yourselves out with the accusations. ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2020, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/1540 "2020-09-20T02:50:54Z")
This! I so agree! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519.md?page=76) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519.md?page=78)