# Are you a racist? Warning signs **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 7, 2014, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519 "2014-07-07T08:12:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/161 "2014-07-08T01:44:18Z")
> [@chicagowhitesox1173](#): > > Your another one who likes to change words around…I said, that fathers will raise an eyebrow if they had daughters who dated somebody from a opposite race. I guess what I mean there is, I don’t think a guy is racist because of this. Well, you’re wrong about that. > [@](#): > > it’s going to be a shock for any father that I know of. If that’s true Then all the fathers you know are racist. > [@](#): > > Apparently not you guys. It’s a normal reaction for any father if this happens. It sure is fuck not a normal reaction. It’s a racist reaction. > [@](#): > > You just got be able to get over it. If you get over it, then you are a little less racist than you were before. > [@](#): > > I swear, I would love to see you face if your daughter bought home a black guy or a white guy depending on your race. I’m sure you would be very even keeled over… You think this because you are racist and you think everyone else must be as racist as you are. You would find yourself keeling over a lot. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/162 "2014-07-08T01:53:21Z")
> [@bup](#): > > I’m a coward. Haven’t you heard? > > Yes, your magical upbringing made it so that you never made a generalization, nor repeated one you heard, because of course you never heard one, whether good, bad, or indifferent, about a race. > > You have no opinion about Caucasians perhaps having Nearderthal DNA mixed in. You couldn’t have ever felt anything, because that would be a comment about a race, which you have never ever made. > > East Asians having epicanthic folds about the eyes is nothing you’d ever notice, because you are better than everyone else. > > Sub-Saharan Africans and sickle-cell anemia? Nope. Not on **faithfool** ’s watch. > > Or, the other possibility is your overreaching smugness is ridiculous. Jesus. Who knew you were just an asshole? Duly noted. I explained why I’ve never done it. Perhaps it would’ve given me more cred to lie? Perhaps I shouldn’t have explained myself, like others here who’ve also said they haven’t ever been a racist in any context? I don’t know, but I do understand that’s not better than anyone else, that’s just the specifics of my upbringing. The only times I’ve ever even thought of race at any point, has been on message boards or seeing / reading shit pertaining to it in the news. But no, go ahead and make me out to be some sort of holier-than-thou freak if it makes you feel better. It’s not like I don’t have plenty of other faults that I’ve got to deal with, I’ll just leave the racism to others who apparently are more talented at it. Whatever though, dude. I’m sure you have all the insight and knowledge in the world into my life. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/163 "2014-07-08T02:09:03Z")
> [@chicagowhitesox1173](#): > > Your telling me the difference between a candybar and 6 million dollars is the same? If you think these two types of theft are the same then your the one who is closed minded. > > Your making light of my reasoning on types of racism but get it through your skull, there is a difference. Somehow, you managed to catch the exact opposite of **Miller’s** point. Well done. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/164 "2014-07-08T02:22:26Z")
Yeah, that chisox1173 sure does have a mind like a steel trap. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/165 "2014-07-08T02:24:42Z")
So is there a chart listing opposite races somewhere on the net? I mean I can kinda guess maybe white and black are supposed to be opposites, but where do all the rest come out? And if you were to date someone from a race that wasn’t your mirror opposite but rather was kitty-corner to your own, would that merit the quirking of one eyebrow from dear old dad, instead of both? I’d do a google search, but I figure the results might be a bit ugly to sift through. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/166 "2014-07-08T02:27:09Z")
I think the use of the term “opposite” race is an indication that in the mind of the speaker, the only race that counts is “white,” because everything else is opposite. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/167 "2014-07-08T02:34:30Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I think the use of the term “opposite” race is an indication that in the mind of the speaker, the only race that counts is “white,” because everything else is opposite. Uh, yeah - I had kind of picked up on that :D. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/168 "2014-07-08T02:35:04Z")
> [@chicagowhitesox1173](#): > > So if you live in a mixed neighborhood, your less likely to be racist? cmon have you ever lived in such a neighborhood because if you have then you would think differently. Someone else linked a study, but let’s ignore that. You’re (sorta?) saying being exposed to other races makes you more racist (a claim I see on a lot of racist sites btw). So being further away from them makes you less racist. Which basically means they’re hypocrites who don’t practice what they (might) preach. Like politicians who say how great public schools are and then send their kids to private schools. The list was a little trollish, since it’s way more likely to apply to a lot of the people posting here, and supposedly egalitarian libs in general. Oh, you’re not racist? Do you live with minorities? Sleep with them? Send your kids to minority schools? Claiming to be enlightened but living hundreds of miles from the nearest black person doesn’t mean you’re racist, but it’s a little eye brow raising. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/169 "2014-07-08T02:46:53Z")
The OP appears to me to be a mix of (mostly) signs someone might be racist, with a few attempts to shut down debate thrown in. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/170 "2014-07-08T03:15:16Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > First of all, just to be clear, that is not something I’ve said nor a notion I believe, and have stated so. ‘Just because I’ve argued something is plausible for years and years doesn’t mean I believe it, so you can’t hold me responsible for my statements!’ This is how weenies debate. You’re the one expending all this energy on the theory that some races might be smarter (but lesser athletes) than others, and that says enough. You can’t spend that much energy posting about something and then say you don’t really care about it. If you didn’t care, you wouldn’t discuss it that much. You’ve spent plenty of time explaining that you think this is plausible and that it’s wrong and _meeeeeeeean_ to dismiss it out of hand even though it has a disgusting and utterly unscientific history. Stand by it or give it up already. > [@magellan01](#): > > To answer your last line, it is wrong to call all these claims racist because you have no proof that they all are. You can assume that they are, and you might be fairly safe in that assumption. But to wave your hand and decree all of them to be racist is wrong because it lacks evidence. Surely you hold that before someone is to be labeled with such a strong word that it is incumbent upon you to have pretty good evidenced, no? Pseudoscientists have been making claims about racial intelligence and inferiority since before the advent of genetics. We don’t need to conduct extensive studies to debunk crap that isn’t science in the first place. When someone claims that a new scientific discovery neatly confirms some old prejudice, we can be confident the discovery is garbage. Science progresses, but that doesn’t mean junk science doesn’t exist any more. It definitely does. It changes its trappings but it offers the same stuff: confirmation of what people already believe, huge generalizations, simplicity, permanence. This is stuff that demands skepticism. So if you were a smarter man, you’d understand that the horseshit you keep insisting is _plausible_ is the same stuff people like Goddard were trotting out a century ago and today it’s generally understood that that stuff was very racist. > [@magellan01](#): > > And some backbone that would allow you to not be so much mouth and so little substance. This is gibberish. > [@](#): > > You can start by backing up your bullshit below by citing statements from me that are racist. Read your own fucking posts. It’s bad enough that everybody has to suffer through your smugness; it’s not fair that you don’t pay attention to your own bullshit because you’re too busy wanking. The only thing more boring than surfing through your unceasing smugness would be reading through them _again_ so I could have the privilege of _explaining your own words to you_ and watching you weasel out of them and reject the sense of your own statements. People usually call you out on this crap as the thread progresses, so I wouldn’t even have anything new to add. That’s why your one SDMB skill is turning three-page threads into ten-page threads. > [@magellan01](#): > > One race may be more intelligent than another. Or they may not. I don’t know. That’s racist enough for me. The idea isn’t just wrong, it’s nonsense: the idea that you can separate genes from all the other factors that affect intelligence in a much more direct way - culture, stress, health, nutrition, wealth - and make generalizations about an average of millions or billions of people is nuts, and that’s before you stop to consider the way people have been globetrotting and fucking for centuries. In my experience there are only two reasons people defend this non-science: to annoy liberals and to dump on black people (or both). In a way it’s sad that some people are so determined to do that that they’ll say shitty things about millions of people - that they think so little of the subjects of their commentary that they’ll pretty much discount their humanity as a class just for the sake of irritating other people (or blaming them for their own problems). What’s a good word for rejecting the humanity of a whole group of people like that? Oh, I know one: racism. ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/171 "2014-07-08T03:25:50Z")
Oh,wow. The abhorrent positions seem to be as follows: **shodan** ’s, that basing your arguments on racism insulate you from criticism because being"racist-ist" is somehow wrong, **Chicagowhatever** ’s claim that the racism of a dad repelled by the skin tone of a black dude is somehow more “natural” than his daughter’s attraction to it, and **magellan01** ’s fever dream that someday an unimpeachable scientist will prove that one (hint: black) race is somehow demonstrably inferior to to some other (hint: white) race. Unfortunately, all these folks are doomed. **Shodan** will never catch up to the fact that despising racism is a characteristic of normal people, not just some trick the liberal elite made up to make him feel bad; **Chicagowhatever** wants everybody to think that racism, good or bad, is somehow “Normal,” and therefore above reproach, and is in for a rude awakening; and \*\*magellen01[/B] somehow doesn’t realize that even if some imaginery Aryan non-Jewish whiter than white scientist came up with irrefutable statistical data demonstrating intellectual superiority of one narrow bloodline, it would still be refuted by the argument that the superior black african genome had been polluted by the inferior stock of the dimwitted white slaveholders who raped their slaves. Finally, magpie doesn’t get that a scientific study, published tomorrow, still wouldn’t excuse all the stupid thinNgs white bigots have said over the last century. Nobody’s going to ever say, " Hey, those ignorant bigots must have somehow known about cytogenetic data that didn’t yet exist." ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/172 "2014-07-08T03:36:50Z")
**magellan01** is, basically, doomed. The trend of opinion is more liberal, and inclusive, and not accepting of his plerophory that skin color and religion and superficial characteristics matter, than he is. His descendents will not willinglly speak of him, as the grandchildren of traitors and bigots don’t. We all die, except in memory: **magellan01** will die, and be erased, by his own kin. ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/173 "2014-07-08T03:38:48Z")
Oh,wow. The abhorrent positions seem to be as follows: **shodan** ’s, that basing your arguments on racism insulate you from criticism because being"racist-ist" is somehow wrong, **Chicagowhatever** ’s claim that the racism of a dad repelled by the skin tone of a black dude is somehow more “natural” than his daughter’s attraction to it, and **magellan01** ’s fever dream that someday an unimpeachable scientist will prove that one (hint: black) race is somehow demonstrably inferior to to some other (hint: white) race. Unfortunately, all these folks are doomed. **Shodan** will never catch up to the fact that despising racism is a characteristic of normal people, not just some trick the liberal elite made up to make him feel bad; **Chicagowhatever** wants everybody to think that racism, good or bad, is somehow “Normal,” and therefore above reproach, and is in for a rude awakening; and \*\*magellen01[/B] somehow doesn’t realize that even if some imaginery Aryan non-Jewish whiter than white scientist came up with irrefutable statistical data demonstrating intellectual superiority of one narrow bloodline, it would still be refuted by the argument that the superior black african genome had been polluted by the inferior stock of the dimwitted white slaveholders who raped their slaves. Finally, magpie doesn’t get that a scientific study, published tomorrow, still wouldn’t excuse all the stupid thinNgs white bigots have said over the last century. Nobody’s going to ever say, " Hey, those ignorant bigots must have somehow known about cytogenetic data that didn’t yet exist." ---
**Author:** ![chicagowhitesox1173](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@chicagowhitesox1173](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chicagowhitesox1173)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/174 "2014-07-08T03:38:52Z")
> [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](#): > > Oh,wow. > The abhorrent positions seem to be as follows: **shodan** ’s, that basing your arguments on racism insulate you from criticism because being"racist-ist" is somehow wrong, **Chicagowhatever** ’s claim that the racism of a dad repelled by the skin tone of a black dude is somehow more “natural” than his daughter’s attraction to it, and **magellan01** ’s fever dream that someday an unimpeachable scientist will prove that one (hint: black) race is somehow demonstrably inferior to to some other (hint: white) race. Unfortunately, all these folks are doomed. **Shodan** will never catch up to the fact that despising racism is a characteristic of normal people, not just some trick the liberal elite made up to make him feel bad; **Chicagowhatever** wants everybody to think that racism, good or bad, is somehow “Normal,” and therefore above reproach, and is in for a rude awakening; and \*\*magellen01[/B] somehow doesn’t realize that even if some imaginery Aryan non-Jewish > > whiter than white scientist came up with irrefutable statistical data demonstrating intellectual superiority of one narrow bloodline, it would still be refuted by the argument that the superior black african genome had been polluted by the inferior stock of the dimwitted white slaveholders who raped their slaves. > Finally, magpie doesn’t get that a scientific study, published tomorrow, still wouldn’t excuse all the stupid thinNgs white bigots have said over the last century. Nobody’s going to ever say, " Hey, those ignorant bigots must have somehow known about cytogenetic data that didn’t yet exist." Yeah and I bet you would walk down any black neighborhood street at 200 am without fear of getting beat up either. Seriously where would you feel safer walking through? A black neighborhood or a white neighborhood. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/175 "2014-07-08T03:45:31Z")
> [@chicagowhitesox1173](#): > > Yeah and I bet you would walk down any black neighborhood street at 200 am Maybe that’s your problem. You’re staying up for weeks at a time. ---
**Author:** ![chicagowhitesox1173](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@chicagowhitesox1173](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chicagowhitesox1173)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/176 "2014-07-08T03:47:44Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Maybe that’s your problem. You’re staying up for weeks at a time. Why don’t you answer the question too. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/177 "2014-07-08T03:50:04Z")
> [@chicagowhitesox1173](#): > > Your telling me the difference between a candybar and 6 million dollars is the same? If you think these two types of theft are the same then your the one who is closed minded. No, I’m saying that, despite one being unquestionably a more serious crime, both crimes are still “theft.” Just of differing degrees. Similarly, the guy who burned down that girls garage, and your own fine self, are both racists. Just of differing degrees. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/178 "2014-07-08T03:52:34Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > The OP appears to me to be a mix of (mostly) signs someone might be racist, with a few attempts to shut down debate thrown in. Considering the number of responses, I did a poor job in my supposed attempt to shut down debate. ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/179 "2014-07-08T03:54:06Z")
Wow. I would feel safer walking down any street you were farthest from. Seriously, what have I said that made you think my answer would be anything else? If rich=safe, I’d be safer in white neighborhoods, but what does that prove, other than that racism exists and needs to be squashed, along with people like yourself? I’ve felt safe and unsafe around both black and white people. When I’ve felt.unsafe around blacks, it was mostly.because I felt guilty about.my own racism. When I’ve felt unsafe around whites, it was because I felt their racism couldn’t be trusted. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519/180 "2014-07-08T03:58:35Z")
> [@chicagowhitesox1173](#): > > Why don’t you answer the question too. I would feel safer walking through the neighborhood that looked better. Unlike you, I wouldn’t base “looked better” on the color of the skin of the people in it. I’d base it on how many street lights there were, whether it was a residential neighborhood, whether there were people out walking, etc. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-racist-warning-signs/692519.md?page=10)