# Are you a religous hypocrite?  Take the test and find out!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 30, 2003, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306 "2003-06-30T05:57:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/1 "2003-06-30T05:57:19Z")

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[http://www.philosophers.co.uk/games/god.htm](http://www.philosophers.co.uk/games/god.htm)

This is one of the best online tests I have seen in a long time.

I came out pretty good, only had to bite the bullet once. I was hit once, but I would argue with that…

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/2 "2003-06-30T06:07:29Z")

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Hit = 0 BTB 1

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/3 "2003-06-30T06:23:53Z")

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I was merrily rolling along until the last 4 questions when I took 3 hits and bit one bullet. Ouch! I disagree on one point, but the others I’ll have to think about.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/4 "2003-06-30T06:28:00Z")

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Bit one bullet.

Stupid Loch Ness Monster _shakes fist_

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/5 "2003-06-30T06:38:26Z")

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Very interesting. I tried to go through it just to give it a look (I’m an atheist), and found that I simply had no opinion on many of the questions - to be expected, I guess. I bit two bullets with mostly hypothetical answers. Interestingly, that seems to be better than most people who really believe in this stuff do. 😛

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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/6 "2003-06-30T06:45:09Z")

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These are not opinion questions. If you have ever given any thought to the nature of God you **must** have idea of what to choose.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/7 "2003-06-30T06:58:35Z")

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No, I have to disagree with that. They’re certainly opinion questions, but anyway- one question I saw was

“Any being which it is right to call God must want there to be as little suffering in the word as is possible.”  
I have no opinion on that. My disbelief in the existence of gods has nothing to do with the answer. I can understand that some people would say that if there was a god, he/she/whatever has a great deal to answer for, owing to the suffering in the world. But not everyone thinks that god is obligated to make sense to people, or to do any such thing. There can be argument on whether or not a god that allows this suffering is a _just_, i.e. moral, god. But I don’t see it as an issue since I don’t think there’s any such creature in the first place.

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**Author:** ![SnoopyFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@SnoopyFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnoopyFan)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/8 "2003-06-30T07:00:28Z")

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1 direct hit, 1 bullet

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/9 "2003-06-30T07:14:16Z")

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Two hits, but I think the test’s wrong. Here’s my first hit:

> [@](#):
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> You stated earlier that evolutionary theory is essentially true. However, you have now claimed that it is foolish to believe in God without certain, irrevocable proof that she exists. The problem is that there is no certain proof that evolutionary theory is true - even though there is overwhelming evidence that it is true. So it seems that you require certain, irrevocable proof for God’s existence, but accept evolutionary theory without certain proof.

This is just playing with words. What was I supposed to say, that evolution is false because there’s no _certain_ proof, or claim that it’s a brilliant thing to believe in God without proof? There’s a distinction between ordinary and extraordinary claims, and besides evolution has evidence, God doesn’t. This is no inconsistency.

The second hit I acknowledge; that was a contradiction on my part.

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/10 "2003-06-30T07:15:52Z")

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I was doing fine until th elast 4 questions. Then i got 2 direct hits and bit one bullet.

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/11 "2003-06-30T07:20:38Z")

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Though I don’t quite undersand this

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> In saying that God has the freedom and power to do that which is logically impossible (like creating square circles), you are saying that any discussion of God and ultimate reality cannot be constrained by basic principles of rationality. This would seem to make rational discourse about God impossible. If rational discourse about God is impossible, there is nothing rational we can say about God and nothing rational we can say to support our belief or disbelief in God. To reject rational constraints on religious discourse in this fashion requires accepting that religious convictions, including your religious convictions, are beyond any debate or rational discussion. This is to bite a bullet.

I mean, I thought it stood to reason that if a God exists, he/she/it could pretty much do whatever he/she/it wanted, regardless of the boundaries of rationality.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/12 "2003-06-30T07:25:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by pepperlandgirl \*  
> \*\*I mean, I thought it stood to reason that if a God exists, he/she/it could pretty much do whatever he/she/it wanted, regardless of the boundaries of rationality. \*\*

It doesn’t. For starters, what’s your definition of “God”? If a being exists that created the entire Universe, wrote the laws of physics and inspired prophets, is that being still God even if it isn’t omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent? What makes a being a god? If aliens created the human race in test-tubes, are they gods? Where do you draw the limit?

Also, it is generally accepted that God cannot defy logic, since it is by definition logically impossible. If God makes a square round, it isn’t a square anymore. That’s the definition of square. How could he possibly make a round square? Why wouldn’t it be a circle?

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/13 "2003-06-30T08:24:19Z")

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I don’t know **Priceguy**. When I was a Mormon, I figured that God being God could do whatever God wants because said God had all the power. Why not create a square circle and call it a square?  
Now that I’m an atheist, I really don’t care about the power of a hypothetical god.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/14 "2003-06-30T08:26:43Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by pepperlandgirl \*  
> \*\*I don’t know **Priceguy**. When I was a Mormon, I figured that God being God could do whatever God wants because said God had all the power. Why not create a square circle and call it a square? \*\*

Well, that’s not a problem, that’s a square. Claiming it’s still a circle _is_ a problem, however. That’s simply false.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/15 "2003-06-30T08:29:59Z")

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Well, I got one hit and no bite the bullets. btw, what is a “bite the bullet”? But… I wouldn’t say my philosophy is inconsistant, rather that being asked these questions helped me clarify my thoughts. I’m an atheist for what it’s worth.

At first, I answered that if God existed, he must be free to do anything, but when pressed for specifics, I admitted that it’s not possible for him to make 2+2=5, so in hindsight, my answer to the first was incorrect.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/16 "2003-06-30T09:49:14Z")

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2 hits, one bullet

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/17 "2003-06-30T09:59:33Z")

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Zero and zero. Just call me Mr. Consistency :D.

- Tamerlane

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**Author:** ![Ben\_Hicks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbce88/32.png) [@Ben\_Hicks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben_Hicks)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/18 "2003-06-30T10:08:22Z")

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0 hits, 1 bullet.

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**Author:** ![Shotgunhaircut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@Shotgunhaircut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shotgunhaircut)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/19 "2003-06-30T10:09:03Z")

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One hit, one bite the bullet. [Here](http://www.philosophers.co.uk/games/games.htm) is a link to some more games by the same people. I thought some of them were quite thought provoking, check it out.😃

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2003, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-religous-hypocrite-take-the-test-and-find-out/185306/20 "2003-06-30T10:11:57Z")

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0 hits, 0 bullets.

The test is flawed though, I believe, as it presents many of the questions as black-and-white, when in reality they are not.

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