# Are you a white, liberal, atheist man?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 10, 2021, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420 "2021-09-10T03:14:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/41 "2021-09-10T14:02:24Z")

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White.  
Male.  
Agnostic.  
Conservative.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/42 "2021-09-10T14:05:52Z")

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> [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](#):
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> How is someone “not-entirely-cis”? Are you intersex?

Probably “questioning” would have been more accurate. I present as a man, and always have, but I’m no longer entirely certain that I fully identify as male.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/43 "2021-09-10T14:07:39Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> I did the same, then clicked “see vote” and I was allowed to change it.

This implies that I did it accidentally.

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**Author:** ![The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_wind_of_my_soul)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/44 "2021-09-10T14:11:48Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> In short, Jews - at least, Israeli Jews - consider themselves a race. Who are you to tell us we’re wrong?

You’re question about who am I to tell you you’re wrong strikes me as unnecessarily antagonistic. I never called you wrong, I said I either didn’t understand or disagreed, and asked for further explanation. And as a Jew myself, by ethnicity but not by religion, I do at least feel qualified to say that as an ethnically Jewish person, I would consider my own race to be white. But I can see how, if you felt that your language and cultural practices and cuisine and all were more in line with an Ethiopian Jew than your fellow white Americans (if you live in America), that you might feel differently than I do.

And thank you, **Babale** , that picture was helpful

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/45 "2021-09-10T14:19:31Z")

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I voted for the question title in the poll because I think the whole poll has no grey areas and is very “let’s put you in a box. Who cares if you’re a couple of different ethnicities/races, you don’t define yourself by your gender, and think deeply about spiritual/religious questions. I just want to know black or white, yes or no.”

> [@FordPrefect](#):
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> I almost voted for the question item in the poll, but I am keeping my smart assery on the DL.

Stop that!

(Can we have a poll where we ask for more _smart assery?)_

Seriously, I hang out here (too much) for the witty banter, wry quips and snark as much as the actual content.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/46 "2021-09-10T15:20:06Z")

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Of course I am. Who isn’t!?

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/47 "2021-09-10T15:27:33Z")

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I am a white liberal atheist, manifestly female.

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**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/48 "2021-09-10T15:54:39Z")

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White, male, non believer, an armchair anarchist communist, but sure, “liberal” for the purposes of the poll if that means leftish

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/49 "2021-09-10T16:06:42Z")

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White, conservative, Catholic, male.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/50 "2021-09-10T16:21:02Z")

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Male, liberal (by US standards), atheist.  
But not white.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/51 "2021-09-10T17:24:15Z")

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I am an American of Piratical Descent and a Psychotronic Hermeticist.

Arr.

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**Author:** ![thdudescar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thdudescar/32/4638_2.png) [@thdudescar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thdudescar)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/52 "2021-09-10T17:28:53Z")

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White  
Male  
Episcopalian  
Libertarian

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**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/53 "2021-09-10T18:19:00Z")

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White, male, atheist, more of a centrist but if you ask my friends, a liberal. (Anyone who didn’t vote for Trump is, by default, a left wing, radical, socialist, antifa supporter)

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**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/54 "2021-09-10T19:09:34Z")

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White conservative pagan man.

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**Author:** ![P-man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/p-man/32/3606_2.png) [@P-man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P-man)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/55 "2021-09-10T21:30:41Z")

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White  
Male  
Liberal  
Christian

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**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/56 "2021-09-10T22:14:16Z")

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For a board that is not specifically atheist, the percentage of respondents that are atheists is extraordinary (compared to the general population, for example). Any specific reason why non-believers are over represented on this board?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/57 "2021-09-10T22:19:38Z")

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Not an atheist myself, but I think it’s that atheism by and large has tremendous overlap with liberalism, science, rationality, philosophy, etc. - stuff that the Dope is big on.

And yes, we had a thread a few months ago in which the ratio of atheists to theists was something like 30-to-1.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/58 "2021-09-10T22:23:17Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> And yes, we had a thread a few months ago in which the ratio of atheists to theists was something like 30-to-1.

Frankly, I would be very surprised if the actual proportion of atheists to theists on this board (if one was able to actually conduct a census) would be anything close to 30-to-1, even if atheists are substantially more common here than in the western world, in general.

Any particular thread on this board will wind up being a “convenience sample,” of those who are interested enough in the particular topic to actually respond. So, if a thread felt like it was 30-to-1 atheists, it was likely in part because the topic was particularly relevant or interesting to some atheists.

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**Author:** ![Somethingwitty1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/somethingwitty1/32/8899_2.png) [@Somethingwitty1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Somethingwitty1)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/59 "2021-09-10T22:32:20Z")

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White atheist male. Liberal/conservative/libertarian depending on the issue. except on Tuesdays when I am a conservative liberal. unless its is raining, then I’m liberal conservative. but every Wednesday I am a libertarian. but if it involves national security I’m a conservative, or law and order. except when it directly affects me, so I’m a liberal libertarian.

Unless I have to deal with city building inspectors, then I’m an Anarchist. Unless my neighbor is building an illegal deck. in which case I fully support city building inspectors.

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**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-a-white-liberal-atheist-man/950420/60 "2021-09-10T22:32:47Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Frankly, I would be very surprised if the actual proportion of atheists to theists on this board (if one was able to actually conduct a census) would be anything close to 30-to-1

Fair enough, but even having 20% of a group in america identify as atheist is a rare event, outside of atheist groups and perhaps high level scientists. I still think it’s pretty extraordinary for a relatively general interest board that doesn’t advertise as non-religious to have this high a percentage.

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