# Are you all happy now? (handy has been banned)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 25, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227 "2003-11-25T18:49:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/41 "2003-11-25T20:32:35Z")

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yeah god know’s pregnancy/condoms/sex aren’t medical topics. Why it’s not like they have doctors studying those things and taking care of those things. Why I never considered any of those things to have anything to do with medicine. Nor can misunderstanding any of those things lead to (potentially) dangerous consequences for all involved. :putz:

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**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/42 "2003-11-25T20:35:02Z")

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How sad.

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**Author:** ![BottledBlondJeanie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/0ea827/32.png) [@BottledBlondJeanie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BottledBlondJeanie)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/43 "2003-11-25T20:41:08Z")

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Alas, poor \*\*Handy is no more.

I do hope he can come back later. Although I do understand this was the straw, I could see how he might not have realized how it sounded…

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**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/44 "2003-11-25T20:41:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The Man With The Golden Gun \*  
> \*\*Looks like **Guinastasia** is in the lead, now. \*\*

Now what the hell does _that_ mean?

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/45 "2003-11-25T20:44:04Z")

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That she has the highest post count of any current poster?

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/46 "2003-11-25T20:45:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by singular1 \*  
> \*\*Now what the hell does _that_ mean? \*\*

Post count.

On further reading of the **handy** ban thread, I see where he gave out considerable medically-related information in his second post. I retract my remarks. Buh bye, **handy**.

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/47 "2003-11-25T20:46:26Z")

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Just for the record, there are plenty of other people (myself included) who are knowledgable about deafness and deaf culture and who haven’t broken the rules. So don’t mourn him on that account.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/48 "2003-11-25T20:50:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Binarydrone \*  
> \*\*Perhaps he was secretly a Republican. I understand that there is some conspiracy around here to martyr them or something. \*\*

:eek:

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/49 "2003-11-25T20:57:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Crusoe \*  
> \*\*That she has the highest post count of any current poster? \*\*

Soon to be eclipsed by **Q.E.D** 😃

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/50 "2003-11-25T20:57:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by IzzyR \*  
> And I don’t buy the “straw that broke the camel’s back” argument either. If handy had received multiple warnings about incorrect information, one might argue this. His warning was about medical topics.

He was warned generally long before his recent specific warning about medical topics. From [TubaDiva](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=1854440#post1854440%22%5B/url), exactly 2 years ago today:

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> handy, you’ve really tried our patience here, on this subject and many others. You’re on formal warning already, act the fool some more and you’re part of our used to be.

Incidentally, [Cecil himself](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=1856274#post1856274) basically told him to calm down in that same thread. Do you suppose you should consider taking things down a notch when Cecil himself tells you so?

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/51 "2003-11-25T20:58:41Z")

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Singular, I assumed he was referring to post counts.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/52 "2003-11-25T21:26:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by adam yax \*  
> \*\*I think that **Lynn** made the correct call here. Granted the thread wasn’t about medical issues and **handy** was okay with his first post. However, the second post when he said
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> _I still don’t get where some people get the notion that using a condom is considered ‘safe sex’. It might be considered ‘safer sex’ but there is still alot of STDs a person can get wearing a condom. Also condoms fall off, or split._
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> was probably the issue. He makes it sound like with a condom or without your chances of getting an STD are the same.\*\*

The irony being that if this in fact the statement that turned **handy** into **bandy** then he got the ax for posting something that is factually correct. There are a number of STDs which may be transmitted while condoms are being correctly used. Condoms do split and they do fall off. The inference may have been drawn that he was saying that STDs are equally likely with or without sex, but as a matter of medical fact his statement was correct.

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**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/53 "2003-11-25T21:30:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Otto \*  
> \*\*The irony being that if this in fact the statement that turned **handy** into **bandy** then he got the ax for posting something that is factually correct. \*\*

It’s probably the first time. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

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**Author:** ![Gundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Gundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gundy)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/54 "2003-11-25T21:48:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by porcupine \*  
> \*\*It’s probably the first time. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. \*\*

I thought I was the only one who used that stopped clock line anymore.

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/55 "2003-11-25T21:51:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Q.E.D. \*  
> \*\*On further reading of the **handy** ban thread, I see where he gave out considerable medically-related information in his second post. I retract my remarks. Buh bye, **handy**. \*\*

I wondered if you had seen that. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/56 "2003-11-25T22:24:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gundy \*  
> \*\*I thought I was the only one who used that stopped clock line anymore. \*\*

You’re such a big influence on me. You know, them young kids with the digital clocks prolly don’t know what we’re talking about.

I think this is the first time I’ve said it, but it was so appropriate I just _had_ to.

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/57 "2003-11-25T22:26:14Z")

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I’m not sure if this is good or bad, but that line just makes me think of a very similar quote in the film _Withnail & I_, and a sample of that quote used in a song by Ride.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/58 "2003-11-25T23:02:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by porcupine \*  
> \*\*You’re such a big influence on me. You know, them young kids with the digital clocks prolly don’t know what we’re talking about.
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> I think this is the first time I’ve said it, but it was so appropriate I just _had_ to. \*\*

What if the digital clock is flashing 12:00?

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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/59 "2003-11-25T23:14:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by World Eater \*  
> \*\*What if the digital clock is flashing 12:00? \*\*

Well, then it would be right 120 times a day.

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**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/60 "2003-11-25T23:21:51Z")

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Since he was already on the hook for spreading misinformation in medical-related threads, he should have been banned long ago for his ignorant contributions to [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=134568). It involved a discussion of cochlear implants, and **handy** made the flat-out erroneous assertion that the implantation of the device  
“often, not always” severed the auditory nerve, an impossible event due to the anatomy of the cochlea itself.

When I called him on his error, he refused to acknowledge his mistake. When I challenged him to provide a _single_ cite, he disappeared from the thread altogether.

I was aware at the time that **handy** was forbidden by the mods to dispense medical-related information on the boards, and was expecting something to happen as a result of his actions in that thread. Nothing ever did, and I always felt **handy** got a free pass because of that.

I’ve long seen him as an SDMB member who appears absolutely incapable or unwilling to accept responsibility for what he writes here.

I’m not going to miss him.

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