# Are you all happy now? (handy has been banned)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 25, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227 "2003-11-25T18:49:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/81 "2003-11-26T02:29:36Z")

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In answer to the question phrased by the title of this tread: Yes. He had a huge post count and the vast majority of those posts were useless. We just don’t need that here. It’s a shame because I do think that he’s a nice guy but it was the right thing to do.

Haj

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/82 "2003-11-26T02:31:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by kanicbird \*  
> \*\*Well include me in that minority. I know he was worned many many times about posting medical advice BUT his post was not medical in nature, more like just posting common knowleage. It looks like more you were looking for a reason to ban him, rather then catch him on something unquestionably medical.
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> Just my humble O \*\*

I thought that too, until I read his _second_ post in the thread he got banned in. It was, as you say, unquestionably medical in nature.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/83 "2003-11-26T02:35:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by county \*  
> \*\*I got a warning, how do I know if it is “formal” ? \*\*

Just about ALL warnings are “formal”. If you were mentioned by name, consider it a formal warning. If it was addressed to you, that’s a formal warning.

And sometimes we don’t give second warnings, depending on the offense.

Lynn

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/84 "2003-11-26T02:47:00Z")

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> And sometimes we don’t give second warnings, depending on the offense.

Is that a warning?

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/85 "2003-11-26T03:12:51Z")

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Nah. That wasn’t a warning, that was a statement.

On the subject of warnings, I banned Evil-Monkey-With-Excessively-Long-Name without any sort of warning, just as I or someone else had banned his previous incarnations. I don’t warn for blatant trolling, or for spamming. I just ban.

Lynn

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/86 "2003-11-26T03:17:30Z")

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Am I happy?

[Singer]  
I’M SO VERY HAPPY!  
[/Singer]

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/87 "2003-11-26T03:18:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The Man With The Golden Gun \*  
> \*\*Looks like **Guinastasia** is in the lead, now. \*\*

Go Pittsburgh!

Wait … I live in Cleveland now. Can’t say that. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/88 "2003-11-26T03:43:15Z")

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Good God, **Manny**! [You linked to](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47975) **Handy** _and_ **peace** simultaneously. What were you thinking? 😃

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/89 "2003-11-26T04:01:07Z")

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If **handy** just liked to see his post count grow…and others who do-why is post count visible, anyways? Just curious.

And um, thanks, I guess. :o

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/90 "2003-11-26T04:08:58Z")

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Long Live Queen Guin!!!

I’ve heard handy took up an offer to go overseas to the middle east.  
Last herd, he was enjoying some rhum with a certain other banned person…

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/91 "2003-11-26T04:18:42Z")

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… next month.

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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/92 "2003-11-26T04:27:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*If **handy** just liked to see his post count grow…and others who do-why is post count visible, anyways? Just curious.
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> And um, thanks, I guess. :o \*\*

I like having the post count displayed. If it’s reasonably substantial, it (along with a registration date older than last week) is some small evidence that the poster is credible. Most people who are longtime, at least somewhat active board members seem to value their standing and have something to lose if they get a reputation for posting nonsense.

On the other hand, my experiences with **handy** (NPI) are making me think that **too** large of a post count shows unreliability, too. No one person can have something useful to say in **that** many threads.

(FWIW, the banning was more than justified. He posted nonsense for far too long. I am curious about one thing, though. Has he ever tried to justify his posting style, anywhere? I really have a hard time understanding how/why someone would do what he did. He knew what most board members thought of him, and had to have some clue that he wasn’t being helpful. Did he get some weird charge out of being annoying?)

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/93 "2003-11-26T04:55:11Z")

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Has anyone asked the important question?

What the hell is he going to do with the extra 8 hours a day?

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/94 "2003-11-26T05:04:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wikkit \*  
> \*\*What the hell is he going to do with the extra 8 hours a day? \*\*

Well, his username was _ **handy** _, after all…

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/95 "2003-11-26T05:28:28Z")

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Move to Canada?

If the women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you **handy**.

Oh, and since this is a handy pit thread, it’s a requirement that someone mention that handy doesn’t read the pit.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/96 "2003-11-26T05:31:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wikkit \*  
> **If the women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.**

Red Green!! I love that guy. he cracks me right the fuck up.

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**Author:** ![Stephi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Stephi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephi)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/97 "2003-11-26T05:32:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Random \*  
> \*\*I like having the post count displayed. If it’s reasonably substantial, it (along with a registration date older than last week) is some small evidence that the poster is credible. Most people who are longtime, at least somewhat active board members seem to value their standing and have something to lose if they get a reputation for posting nonsense.
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> \*\*

I’m not sure I agree with that, I know a lot of people, (myself included,) who read a lot of threads, yet post in very few of them. A low post count doesn’t mean the poster doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

Just a minor hijack, carry on. 🙂

Oh, and just FTR, I wonder why the mods let handy go on the way he did for so long. If I was a mod, I would have banned him a long time ago. Which is why I’d probably make a bad moderator. 🙂

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/98 "2003-11-26T05:33:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Random \*  
> \*\* I am curious about one thing, though. Has he ever tried to justify his posting style, anywhere? I really have a hard time understanding how/why someone would do what he did. He knew what most board members thought of him, and had to have some clue that he wasn’t being helpful. Did he get some weird charge out of being annoying?) \*\*

Some time ago there was a In Praise of Handy thread in MPSIMS. He responded to that one and said that he was aware of the complaints and Pit threads about him. I don’t recall any explanation about his behavior in that thread.

Haj

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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/99 "2003-11-26T05:53:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Stephi \*  
> \*\*I’m not sure I agree with that, I know a lot of people, (myself included,) who read a lot of threads, yet post in very few of them. A low post count doesn’t mean the poster doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
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> \*\*

Ha! What do you know, with your measly 0.56 posts per day? Everyone knows that you need at least **0.57** to be taken seriously.

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**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-all-happy-now-handy-has-been-banned/215227/100 "2003-11-26T06:06:49Z")

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Is it just me, or has the board been a lot faster in the past, oh, 12 hours? 😃

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