# Are you (almost) ready for some (SDMB fantasy) football?!?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 6, 2001, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175 "2001-08-06T20:56:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2001, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/61 "2001-08-20T16:39:18Z")

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Though it didn’t involve a case of beer. _tick_ _tick__rage of a lotta suns_ is now on the clock.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2001, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/62 "2001-08-20T17:05:03Z")

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Looks like **LNO** wasn’t serious. (Too bad – I could have used a case of beer.)

Your turn, **ShibbOleth**. Time to play let’s make a deal!

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2001, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/63 "2001-08-20T17:37:35Z")

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No no no! I am serious!

I’m just trying to get your email address so we can negotiate without going through that blankety-blank interface!

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**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2001, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/64 "2001-08-20T17:53:29Z")

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Why the hell do you want to get rid of JEFF GARCIA?!?

Did you see the numbers he put up last year?

Although I’m nervously counting on some production from a couple of rookie RBs, my team is as loaded as … well, me on any given Friday night.

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> \*\*I’ll be like the gunk on the bottom of your shoe that you don’t remember stepping in, but you keep scraping the sole of your shoe on the front step, but the gunk never comes off? So you end up tracking into the office, and everyone is sniffing the air and wondering what that godawful stench is, but you don’t want to admit that it’s the thing you stepped in out in the parking lot, so you end up trudging around all day with that gunk on your shoe that won’t come off, and you’re full of rage?

\*\*  
Women have accused me of the same thing in relationships.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2001, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/65 "2001-08-20T18:29:42Z")

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Go to the “Teams & Coaches List” link on the left of the page. My email address is there.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2001, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/66 "2001-08-20T18:35:44Z")

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You took a gamble on rookie RBs, especially since Tomlinson is still a holdout, but they both have big upside potential. Bennet looked good in preseason game 1, but the Vikes O-Line is a worry.

Still, Moss spreads the field better than anyone in the game. The rookie should have a gaping hole to run through at least twice a game.

Your team loks strong. Warner-Holt could be a dream. Depth, particularly at RB, would be my only real concern.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2001, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/67 "2001-08-23T22:23:01Z")

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But better late smack than no smack at atll, I say

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> Johnson and Couch  
> v.  
> Brunell and Bledsoe
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> You have two known commodities. They are known for being mediocre at best in fantasy football. Add to that the fact that both have lost their #1 receiver and have a porous O-line, they are in big trouble. Johnson has to potential to really do well, and even if he is average, he’ll still beat your QBs. Couch is finally in a system that fits him, he has a great (if somewhat injured) receiver corps. He’ll be my sleeper stud this year.

You obviously did not pay attention to Brunnell’s stats last year. He has better upside than either Johnson or Couch. Bledsoe is a solid fantsay backup, which is exactly what is needed. As for wideouts–Jimmy Smith is not lost, though McCardell might miss the first couple of games. Glenn hasn’t been a top receiver since his rookie year, bur I’ll admit that if Bledsoe was my top choice I would worry about losing him. How you can call the Browns receiving corps great is simply beyond comprehension. They haven’t a single top-tier receiver on the team, healthy or otherwise.

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> Edge, Smith, Jones and Alexander  
> v.  
> Taylor, Dunn, Holmes, and Hearst
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> Edge, although I got him more by luck than skill, could make up for 3 bad rbs, but I got 3 starters, and a backup (alexander) who has had a good camp and plays in a dream offense for a running back. Emmitt is chasing a record, they have long ball threats, and he’s just plain good. Hell, last year they put 9 in the box and he still produced. Jones had a bad rookie season, but he’s got potential. He’ll do me fine. As for your team, Taylor - injury risk, he’s excellent when he plays, but you are never sure when that will be. Dunn - He’s your number 2??? Hahahahahaha. Dunn v. Emmitt Smith…hahahaha. The preseason hype is Dunn will be the next Faulk, with them running him, throwing to him, and making him their #1 threat. Well, don’t buy the hype. With alstot back, he’ll miss the TD opportunities, and he’s a scatback. Holmes - I liked the pick. He has a ton of upside and with the Chief’s offense, he may turn out to do really well. However, big questions with RBBC with Tony Richardson taking the red zone carries. Think Napoleon Kaufman. Hearst is a trendy pick, but he’s been out of football for two years and I just don’t see him having an impact.

Taylor is an injury risk, yes, but he finished last year stronger than any back not named Marshall. I will happily take Dunn over Emmitt this year. Emmitt is old, and the Plowboys ain’t stretching jack with Quincy Carter at QB. Dunn put up better numbers over the last half of last season, and I expect him to do so again. Hell, since they open against the Plowboys he is liable to start things off with a 200 yard game. Holmes and Hearst are both solid starters. Jones and Alexander are a backup and a backup to be. Nuff said.

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> Harrison, Boston, Westbrook, Darnay Scott (recent addition)  
> v.  
> Owens, Freeman, Mathis, McKnight, R.Moore.
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> Owens has no rb threat, no jerry rice, and a bad attitude. There is no way he comes close to last years stats. Freeman is a good #3 receiver, but he has gone downhill since signing his huge contract. I don’t see him getting better now. Mathis was just plain a mistake. McKnight is a deep threat, but one 71 yard preseason TD is about all he’ll really get. Tony Martin couldn’t do it with the Dolphins, neither will McKnight. Rob Moore I like, he could be the comback kid, as a #2 behind Boston. Harrison is the 2nd best WR out there, Boston is on the verge of greatness, Westbrook and Scott are merely high possible return. If either can come back from their injuries, they’ll really put up the stats. I gambled, and we will see.

Owens had the same attitude last year, and nobody was doubling Rice in the red zone. He put up better numbers than Harrison, found the endzone more consistently, and did so despite missing time to suspension. He is the second best receiver in fantasy football. Remember that when Harrison goes another 6 game stretch without scoring a TD. Freeman had a bad year on and off the field last year. His off field troubles seem over, so I expect an on field rebound. The fact that Favre is healthier than he has been for 2 years is also a factor. Boston’s a stud, but his numbers were inflated by all those desperate 4th quarter comback attempts that Arizona had to pull. The change in offensive philosophy, and the return of Moore, will both leech numbers from him.

It’s silly to concentrate too much on 3,4,5 receivers at this point, but you underestimate McKnight and a healthy Jay Feidler. Westbrook will be fine if he and George both stay healthy, but Scott will have Kitna, Mitchell, or Smith throwing to him.

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> Gonzo  
> v.  
> Anybody else.
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> Gonzo, 'Nuff said.

Agreed

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> Kickers, and Defense, I dont’ really need to break these down, except to mention I have the best LB in the business.

Brooks is a stud, but I’ll take my 3 over your 3 for teh long hall. Cowart is a righteous stud, too, who will get lots of opportunities in the new 4-3 alignment. McKinnon has numbers only slightly behind Brooks’, and Spikes is as solid a 3rd defender as you will find in fantasy football.

Really, though, we should look at the starters and one additional flex position. That is who will be “on the field”

```auto

**hamlet**  **Mundi**  **edge**
QB Johnson Brunnell Mundi
RB Edge Taylor hamlet
RB E. Smith Dunn Mundi
WR Harrison Owens Mundi
WR Boston Freeman hamlet
TE Gonzalez Alexander hamlet
(r)Jones/Westbrook Holmes/Hearst Mundi
K Hanson Janikowski Mundi
D Brooks Cowart ==
D Simmons KcKinnon ==
D Butler Spikes Mundi

```

Pretty even, really, across the board. The only clearly uneven matchups are QB for me and TE for you. Over the long haul, though, I like my chances. In particular, my reserves have a better upside and apear (right now, at least) to be far more reliable producers.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2001, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/68 "2001-08-23T22:34:05Z")

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I have opened up a pick 'em league for dopers, too.

The invitation thread is [here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=83396)

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**Author:** ![Lady\_Ice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f1d935/32.png) [@Lady\_Ice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_Ice)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/69 "2001-08-24T03:55:14Z")

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Spiritus, sorry I didn’t answer the email. I checked my mail before I checked the league and I didn’t realize it was you. I almost pulled the trigger on it, but now after seeing McNabb play Tenn. tonight I’m glad I didn’t. He struggled in one spot, but he looked good.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/70 "2001-08-24T14:20:15Z")

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that’s why I wanted him! 😉

You’ll be sorry when, um . . . when . . .

Okay, you probably won’t be sorry. It was a fair trade, but I doubt holding onto McNabb will be a major cause of heartbreak for you.

Good luck to you. And remember, everybody wins so long as **Milo** loses. 😃

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/71 "2001-08-24T15:37:41Z")

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There is now also a College lick 'em…er, pick 'em.

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=83518](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=83518)

Enjoy.

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**Author:** ![Lady\_Ice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f1d935/32.png) [@Lady\_Ice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_Ice)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/72 "2001-08-24T15:57:23Z")

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It was a fair trade, Brunnell put up good numbers last year. Holmes was the real bait for me, I need to improve the RB’s. Another reason to hang onto McNabb, I’ll probably need the rushing TD’s he’ll provide.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/73 "2001-08-24T19:01:23Z")

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C’mon – make me a counter offer.

Don’t forget, McNabb is guaranteed at least 2 bad games a year (until Philly figures out how to compete against the Giants. What’s up with that, anyway? 6 years of losing to a team in your dividion is just plain embarrassing.)

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**Author:** ![meek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@meek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meek)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/74 "2001-08-24T21:30:47Z")

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One all-pro TE.

Available: Any of my bench \*player(s).  
[sup]\*Mind subject to change without notice.[/sup]

[sub]There - That ought to do it…[/sub]  
😉

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/75 "2001-08-24T21:58:38Z")

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Damn – knew I was doing something wrong.

**Wanted**  
1 all-pro quarterack.

Available: Any of my bench players[sup]1[/sup].

[sup]1[/sup][sub]Offer void where prohibited by common sense[/sub]

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2001, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-almost-ready-for-some-sdmb-fantasy-football/75175/76 "2001-09-23T03:07:21Z")

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Hey **punha** , you need to check your line-up, **Hamlet** is afraid he’s going to beat you.

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