# Are you an Anglophile?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-an-anglophile/692545>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 7, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-an-anglophile/692545 "2014-07-07T15:16:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-an-anglophile/692545/61 "2014-07-08T18:00:17Z")

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I am an Anglophile, but not as much as my brother - he moved there and married an Englishwoman! Moved to Winchester, and took up Morris Dancing as a hobby. 😃

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-an-anglophile/692545/62 "2014-07-08T18:08:06Z")

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It is no secret that Received Pronunciation makes my knees weak.I love the British sense of humor. I also come from a country that was conquered by the Brits for 400 years but we all have a love-hate relationship to them.

Give me tall, thin and snarky over the American cowboy any day. Luckily my SO is all that and can do a fine RP and looks great in a suit.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-an-anglophile/692545/63 "2014-07-08T18:43:48Z")

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> [@gracer](#):
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> Yes, British identity sort of seems to exist largely as something opposite to American identity. Still, I would feel strange saying it. It’s not that I’m not British, but if you asked I would say English. So it always surprises me (well, not really surprises, but it seems so overemphasised) that these threads are really full of the word British. Especially since most people seem to mean English, I think. Not a criticism, by the way, just an observation.

Fair enough; this opinion just seems to be at odds with that of the other (admittedly small handful of) British people I know.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-an-anglophile/692545/64 "2014-07-08T20:01:30Z")

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> [@amanset](#):
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> I am British. Anglophiles confuse me.

Still, its better than annoyance. As an example, remember how you were feeling before reading this as opposed to after.

See? 😉

> [@Bibliovore](#):
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> That’s ok, we almost forgive you for American “chocolate” 😃

Thank you! So… you don’t want us to share then?  
_cold crisp crunch_

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**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-an-anglophile/692545/65 "2014-07-09T00:58:23Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> My Mom would disown me for saying so (her family were hardcore Fenians), but I guess I have to call myself an Anglophile. Too many of my favorite authors and thinkers are ENglish for me to say anything else.
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> And when I look around the world, I think the nations colonized by England are generally better off than those that weren’t. For all their faults, the English left behind a legacy of republican government and a reverence for education wherever they went.

Not sure about that.

It’s true that the United States and Canada are more prosperous than any Latin American country, for example, but all British colonies aren’t the United States or Canada. India and Nigeria, for example, are much poorer than any Latin American country, and the Anglo-Caribbean countries generally overlap with the Latin American ones. I don’t think you can make many broad generalizations about the quality of Spanish vs. British colonialism. The bigger difference seems to be between settler colonies, where Europeans moved in large numbers and brought their infrastructure, institutions, etc., and exploitation colonies where they just treated the place as a source of natural resources and cheap labour.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-an-anglophile/692545/66 "2014-07-09T03:20:35Z")

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> Well, yes…but that would ruin a proper thread…  
> And that just wouldn’t be cricket, would it? 🙂

I keed, I keed.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-an-anglophile/692545/67 "2014-07-09T03:59:44Z")

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I like most things British and Irish. If I called myself an Anglophile my husband would probably divorce me. He always twitches if someone refers to him as British (he’s from Belfast). It’s interesting because I’ve met other people from Northern Ireland who proudly refer to themselves as British, but my husband says he’s Irish first (mom’s Catholic, dad was Protestant).

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**Author:** ![JerrySTL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e274bd/32.png) [@JerrySTL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JerrySTL)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-an-anglophile/692545/68 "2014-07-09T14:59:45Z")

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I am. I even moved to England from 1988 to 1992. The humor (or would that be humour) strikes me as especially funny. I loved to watch British TV on PBS back in the day and often have BBC America on the TV today.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-an-anglophile/692545/69 "2014-07-09T15:03:08Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> I’m sure you didn’t mean this the way it comes across; are you quoting something I don’t recognize?

> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> **Fuzzy** is referencing [Blazing Saddles](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071230/).

Sorry, I should have explained myself.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-an-anglophile/692545/70 "2014-07-09T15:35:12Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> I beg your pardon?
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> “Republican government” as a British legacy?
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> I believe you’re confusing “constitutional government” with “republican.”
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> (Says **Piper** , a proud subject of Her Majesty living to the north. 😉 )

All right, if I said “representative government,” would you be happier?  
It’s important to note that the American rebels of 1776 started out by demanding their “rights as Englishmen.” That’s a very important phrase. I don’t think anyone had ever previously asserted his rights as a Spaniard, or as a German.

England gave all her subjects, at home and in colonies abroad, a sense of entirlement to inalienable rights. That’s a very valuable legacy.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-an-anglophile/692545/71 "2014-07-09T21:07:32Z")

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William Shakespeare had me at hello.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-an-anglophile/692545/72 "2014-07-09T23:54:16Z")

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FTR- I was teasing\*\* amanset \*\*and **Bibliovore**. Sometimes, lately, some of what I say comes out with a harder edge than it used to. I really am sorry if I caused offense and there are many wonderful things I’ve heard  
about the UK and have experianced briefly from people who hail from there. I hope that I can shed some of my bitterness and be funnier (or at least nicer on occasion) here.

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