# Are you bothered if someone 'vapes' next to you?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 2, 2013, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797 "2013-09-02T13:09:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/41 "2013-09-03T17:20:40Z")

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That seems silly to me. It’s not the movement of putting a cigarette to one’s lips and inhaling that bothers me… it’s the smell that I have to endure that bothers me.

For you people that said this would bother you; would you be bothered if they did it with a candy cigarette? (I’m 50 years old, forgive me if you weren’t aware that as kids we had [candy cigarettes](https://s3.amazonaws.com/candycrate-images/cancig.jpg). They’re still around I hear, although they’re called candy sticks. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/42 "2013-09-03T17:32:30Z")

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> [@Enright3](#):
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> That seems silly to me. It’s not the movement of putting a cigarette to one’s lips and inhaling that bothers me… it’s the smell that I have to endure that bothers me.
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> For you people that said this would bother you; would you be bothered if they did it with a candy cigarette? (I’m 50 years old, forgive me if you weren’t aware that as kids we had [candy cigarettes](https://s3.amazonaws.com/candycrate-images/cancig.jpg). They’re still around I hear, although they’re called candy sticks. :rolleyes:

I’m going to call myself out on this. I didn’t read through all of the thread before replying. I’ve never experienced any vapor smokers where I could smell it. So, I take back what I said if there’s an odor; I don’t want to have to be subjected to it. Now if we could pass this along to the people who wear too much perfume or cologne.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/43 "2013-09-03T18:22:46Z")

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I don’t have a problem with it at all and any establishment that bans them just needs to teach their staff to tell worried patrons that it’s actually not a cigarette.

> [@gaffa](#):
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> That said at public venues, people who use them should follow the same rules as smokers. It’s only fair.

Why is it “only fair?” They’re not cigarettes. They’re not harming anyone. But force the e-cig smokers to go outside with all the smokers, and they’ll be more likely to have a real cigarette.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/44 "2013-09-03T18:23:26Z")

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> [@Enright3](#):
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> I’m going to call myself out on this. I didn’t read through all of the thread before replying. I’ve never experienced any vapor smokers where I could smell it.

I’m quite confident that I could identify the smell of eCigarette vapor blindfolded. As I said, it smells like burnt caramel. Not overpoweringly so, but a definite smell. But it is a small price to pay for her to stop sucking carcinogens and tar into her lungs.

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/45 "2013-09-03T18:52:16Z")

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It actually sounds like something I’d enjoy (the non-nicotine variety) if I could afford it. It wouldn’t bother me at all to be around it. It doesn’t really bother me too much to be around cigarette smoking anyway unless it’s a lot of it in a small closed area.

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**Author:** ![ombre12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@ombre12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ombre12)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/46 "2013-09-03T19:35:00Z")

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> [@ombre12](#):
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> Curious as to what harm nicotine by itself (without tars and all the other crap …urea?.)…in regular cigs does to you.
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> I understand I think that nicotine helps cause gum disease, restricted blood vessels leading to plugged arteries, higher blood pressure, strokes, facial wrinkles and maybe a few other things I can’t recall.
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> So with e-cigs you would eventually have lungs as clean as a non smoker, and would lower your risk of lung cancer, you would have no tobacco cough and probably feel much healthier.
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> So e-cigs and nicotine patches and nicotine gum have got to be better than smoking real cigs…but there is still a downside to all of them.
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> Am I correct in all this?..that it is the nicotine that causes the facial wrinkling, the plugged arteries, gum disease, strokes, high blood pressure etc.
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> The only thing that any pure nicotine substitute, whether patch, gum or e-cig does is clear up your lungs and make you less smelly. Right?

Realize I am going way off thread with this. Will repost in general questions. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/47 "2013-09-03T19:38:41Z")

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I chose other. I don’t care if it doesn’t smell, but some of it really does smell. I realize this was a highly contested issue in the thread, but I doubt the rest of us are just imagining smells. Certain brands, apparently, smell. Those are no good.

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**Author:** ![Learjeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Learjeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Learjeff)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/48 "2013-09-03T21:04:05Z")

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If anyone asks first, I’d probably say OK.

But I don’t think anyone has the right to spread carcinogens in the air where others are trying to eat. If this becomes common, it’ll get outlawed soon anyway.

Fortunately, it hasn’t been an issue yet.

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**Author:** ![Learjeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Learjeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Learjeff)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/49 "2013-09-03T21:08:43Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> It’s water vapor.

What, people use e-cigs and put nothing but water in them? Color me skeptical.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/50 "2013-09-03T21:50:00Z")

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> [@Learjeff](#):
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> What, people use e-cigs and put nothing but water in them? Color me skeptical.

This is what has me skeptical, too.

Maybe it wouldn’t bother me directly, I honestly don’t know because I’ve never had the experience. But my SO is currently trying to figure out asthma related problems, and is really struggling. Basically, _everything_ affects him. It’s possible that an e-cig wouldn’t, but I doubt it’s nothing but water in there. There will be some crap, and as far as I know right now, this crap could do og-knows-what to his lungs. And that would bother me.

So I really don’t know.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/51 "2013-09-04T14:46:39Z")

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I’ve never encountered anyone doing this. But assuming it’s odorless and they don’t blow anything directly on me, I’m fine with it. If it has an odor, it depends on how strong it is and whether I like it. But, even if I don’t, it is nothing compared to how I feel about smokers. The perfume comment above is apt.

I guess I’d care if the carcinogen level is high enough, but I thought they intentionally were quite low.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/52 "2013-09-04T22:20:54Z")

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I can’t stand cigarette smoke, but I’ve been around e-cig vapor and it doesn’t bother me in the least bit. If I close my eyes, I can’t even tell it’s there.

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/53 "2013-09-05T05:43:57Z")

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Does not bother me. ( ex smoker )  
Back when I got sober, if you could not stand smoke, you did not ever go to AA meetings. Now there are enough no smoke meetings that is is not a problem.

People who do not want E-cig smoke around their dining pleasure, but do not also throw a fit over children, babies, people who fart, wear too much sweet stinkim, are not really concerned about health IMO, they just want to impose their desires on everyone else.

Most have very big glass walls in their own places that they are blind to.

Big lack of tolerance IMO.

You have to really get impossible to make me indicate that you are bothering me. You are just not that important… I don’t give anyone free rent in my head.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/54 "2013-09-05T05:55:46Z")

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> [@SciFiSam](#):
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> Why is it “only fair?” They’re not cigarettes. They’re not harming anyone. But force the e-cig smokers to go outside with all the smokers, and they’ll be more likely to have a real cigarette.

Fair to the smokers. If they have to go outside, so should the people using eCigarettes. And I actually think the opposite would happen, that the cigarette smokers will be intrigued and become more likely to move away from tobacco.

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/55 "2013-09-05T05:58:32Z")

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I think most conventional brands don’t have a strong odor, some do have an unpleasant odor, and others have a pleasant odor. I’ve also noticed that people who smoke them smell like kitty litter when they sweat. That said, as a person who hates regular smoke, I don’t really mind, though I’d rather they not blow it my direction for the same reason I’d rather a non smoking person not start blowing air at me, it’s sort of passive aggressive and feels like an intrusion of my personal space.

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/56 "2013-09-05T09:00:21Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> Fair to the smokers. If they have to go outside, so should the people using eCigarettes. And I actually think the opposite would happen, that the cigarette smokers will be intrigued and become more likely to move away from tobacco.

That doesn’t make any sense. The smokers aren’t going to gain anything from someone else being forced to go outdoors, and if they see that even vaping doesn’t mean they get to stay indoors out of the cold and rain it would make them less likely to take it up.

Plus, if you think secondhand smoke is bad (obviously it is), it’s a bit shitty to make someone who isn’t actually smoking breathe more secondhand smoke in.

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/57 "2013-09-06T00:24:34Z")

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Today at work I noticed that a shitload of people had ecigs. Why did I notice this? Because they were pulling them out and sucking on them while we worked. IMO this is wrong and inappropriate; no one wants to pay you to smoke. Put your fucking habit away until break time or lose the habit completely. I’m working with both hands, so should you.

Mind you, I hated the way that smokers would try and sneak out for extra breaks before hand, so this is a little less shitty than that, but still… keep your bad habits for your time, not the time that you’ve agreed to perform work for money.

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/58 "2013-09-06T01:31:28Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Today at work I noticed that a shitload of people had ecigs. Why did I notice this? Because they were pulling them out and sucking on them while we worked. IMO this is wrong and inappropriate; no one wants to pay you to smoke. Put your fucking habit away until break time or lose the habit completely. I’m working with both hands, so should you.

I don’t know what sort of work you do, but in my line, having a cup of coffee or tea or a coke or a snack or whatever at your desk is normal and expected. I don’t see a difference between that and an e-cig IF they are not being otherwise disruptive.

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/59 "2013-09-06T01:47:44Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Today at work I noticed that a shitload of people had ecigs. Why did I notice this? Because they were pulling them out and sucking on them while we worked. IMO this is wrong and inappropriate; no one wants to pay you to smoke. Put your fucking habit away until break time or lose the habit completely. I’m working with both hands, so should you.
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> Mind you, I hated the way that smokers would try and sneak out for extra breaks before hand, so this is a little less shitty than that, but still… keep your bad habits for your time, not the time that you’ve agreed to perform work for money.

Yeah, the rest of us have to sneak into the bathroom to pour bourbon into our coffee!

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-if-someone-vapes-next-to-you/667797/60 "2013-09-06T06:31:54Z")

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I thought a happy employee was much more productive than an unhappy one.

Are their not some very good & profitable companies that go out of their way to make life easy & fun for their employees, including having onsite free day care, free in house gyms etc.???

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