# Are you bothered that most American police unions will endorse Republicans swiftly?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 8, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787 "2020-07-08T22:53:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/81 "2020-07-12T02:43:52Z")

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It sounds like you know nothing at all.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/82 "2020-07-12T02:45:56Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> All I know is that the GOP owns the police departments now, police officers are done with Democratic voters and that is a fact. …

Cite?

Because here in CA, several of the most powerful Police chiefs, Sheriffs are Democrats.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/83 "2020-07-12T05:22:06Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> Police are going to be in the suburbs and rural areas from now on

WTF are you talking about? A city’s police department can’t move itself to a suburb or rural areas. Here in America the police departments that are paid by the city will work in that city. If they try to patrol rural towns instead of their own beats they will get their asses fired. Are you thinking that police departments are independent entities that go transfer themselves from one area to the other?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/84 "2020-07-12T14:25:05Z")

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Where do you get your information? What news/media sources do you use to inform your opinions?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/85 "2020-07-12T15:15:38Z")

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Also, [respond to this if you don’t mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/62).

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**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/86 "2020-07-13T01:39:42Z")

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I get my information from all sources—I don’t live in echo chambers. CNN, MSNBC, BBC, Fox News, local news, The Guardian, The Sun, etc

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**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/87 "2020-07-13T01:40:49Z")

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A lot of cops feel that left-leaning Twitter users mocking dead cops like the ones that died in Texas yesterday is a major turn off.

The only group defending police right now are white Americans, especially Republicans.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/88 "2020-07-13T01:54:45Z")

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DO. YOU. HAVE. ANY. EVIDENCE. OF. THIS. ASSERTION?

Give us some cites that support your statement. I’m beginning to think that either you can’t, and are arguing in bad faith.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/89 "2020-07-13T01:55:35Z")

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Give. Us. One. Cite.

Please.

Hehe, ninja’d by superdude!

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/90 "2020-07-13T02:06:07Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> The only group defending police right now are white Americans, especially Republicans.

Speak for yourself (and please provide a cite for your above assertion. FoxNotNews doesn’t count).

I’m a Democrat and I have made sure my police know that I support them, that I vote in all city elections and I vote in favor of taxes/bonds that support community policing. Every time I have contact with them I thank them and tell them what I think they did especially well. The few times an officer didn’t I communicated that to a supervisor and how it could be improved. Always well and sincerely received.

They support and protect me quite adequately because of citizen communication and involvement and not only on the part of Republicans.

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**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/91 "2020-07-13T03:40:24Z")

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You have people like former NYPD commissioner Bernard Kerik on Fox News and people like his boss, former mayor Rudy Giuliani who are saying those things.

Police are right leaning, not all of them, but there are right-leaning cops, especially in Texas and New York.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/92 "2020-07-13T05:08:56Z")

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So it shouldn’t be that hard for you to supply somes links saying that. But Giuliani is at least 3/4 senile, and a die-hard Trump supporter, so his opinion on this is hardly relevant.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/93 "2020-07-13T05:19:41Z")

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Guilliani is frothing lunatic. Please explain to me why anyone would ever listen to him.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/94 "2020-07-13T11:38:20Z")

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Rudy Giuliani and Bernard Kerik have disgraced themselves. Giuliani has become mentally and emotionally unstable, and Kerik is a convicted criminal.

Why do you think it’s reasonable and wise to rely on the political opinion of these two individuals given their hightly questionable reputation? Do you agree with them because they express the same opinions you already hold?

Given your balanced and informed views, what are your thoughts about [opinions expressed](https://www.npr.org/2020/06/22/881814431/how-recommendations-of-an-obama-task-force-have-and-havent-changed-u-s-policing) by retired Police Chief and Commissioner [Charles Ramsey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_H._Ramsey#:~:text=1971%20%2D%201977-,Charles%20H.,of%20the%20Philadelphia%20Police%20Department.)?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/95 "2020-07-13T15:00:09Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> Police are right leaning, not all of them, but there are right-leaning cops, especially in Texas and New York.

Yes. (not sure about the “especially part” though. Probably everywhere)

And teachers are left leaning. And engineers are conservative and trial lawyers vote liberal. I’m not seeing the point of this thread

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/96 "2020-07-13T15:37:43Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> And teachers are left leaning. And engineers are conservative and trial lawyers vote liberal. I’m not seeing the point of this thread

The point is to cow democrats into fearing the police because they are armed and are more likely to vote for Trump, especially now since they’ve been receiving so much criticism from the left.

It’s the standard not so subtle authoritarian threat from the right – _“Nice property/family you got there. Be a shame if no-one came when you called 911 from your blue district.”_

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**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/97 "2020-07-13T20:36:47Z")

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> **[Daughter of slain Texas cop deletes her tribute amid backlash](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8517633/Daughter-Texas-cop-shot-dead-ambush-deletes-tribute-hero-bluelivesmatter-feud.html#reader-comments)**
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> Savannah Chavez, the grieving daughter of Officer Ismael Chavez, 39 - one of two cops fatally gunned down in McAllen, Texas, on Saturday - uploaded the post just hours after his death.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/98 "2020-07-13T20:46:00Z")

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The real tragedy is that she didn’t know that she can block people from posting on her Twitter feed or thread or whatever it’s called.

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**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/99 "2020-07-13T20:48:46Z")

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True, but she had to see that.

This is why most police officers and unions are voting GOP this year----police and military should not be political whatsoever, however they are.

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**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-bothered-that-most-american-police-unions-will-endorse-republicans-swiftly/914787/100 "2020-07-13T20:49:37Z")

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A lot of the people on the far left are saying abolition of police, so why be surprised when they are no police presence in Democratic areas?

There has to be a balance

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