# Are you going to watch the Victoria's Secret fashion show? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 20, 2002, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779 "2002-11-20T18:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stylize](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@stylize](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stylize)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/1 "2002-11-20T18:57:05Z")
I may just watch it to piss off those groups that called it a “soft-core porn infomercial.” [Here’s their story.](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,70904,00.html) Would they rather us watch _The Bachelor_ ? People, this is not “porn.” It is just underwear; get over it. Gisele…yum. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/2 "2002-11-20T19:11:33Z")
I also laughed my pretty little head off at the juxtaposition of these sentences from the same article: “Concerned Women for America, the National Organization for Women and the Parents Television Council were among several groups protesting the televised fashion show . . . ‘What purpose does the special serve except to overly sexualize women and use this to bolster the networks’ demographics for young men?’ they asked in a joint letter to CBS President Leslie Moonves.” The show . . . was originally scheduled to air at 10 p.m. EDT but, worried about competing against ABC’s two-hour finale of _The Bachelor_, CBS moved it to 8 p.m. _Hee!_ ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/3 "2002-11-20T20:02:07Z")
While I agree with the OP that it isn’t “porn” to show a bunch of women wearing underwear, I also have to say that I won’t be watching. Just not interested. Victoria’s Secret has gone from semi-classy ten years ago to just stupid these days. Their recent “WHAT IS SEXY?” ads are anything but, and their new product lines are just that… products. Any sensuality was bled out of their shops long ago. I can’t think of a lamer way to spend the time. It’s worse than the Oscars (which are pretty content-free in themselves). Thanks, I’ll pass. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/4 "2002-11-20T20:14:11Z")
Bunch of babes parading around in their skivvies and me watching 'em in mine. Yeehar! Just kidding. I honestly could care less as they pale next to my wife. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/5 "2002-11-20T20:32:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lieu \* > \*\*Bunch of babes parading around in their skivvies and me watching 'em in mine. Yeehar! > > Just kidding. I honestly could care less as they pale next to my wife. \*\* Cite? 😃 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/43a26b/32.png) [@Human\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Bean)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/6 "2002-11-20T20:36:13Z")
Never seen one, don’t plan to. But, I’m curious: do they have commercials (from other companies) during this program-length commercial? ---
**Author:** ![roadrunner70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@roadrunner70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roadrunner70)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/7 "2002-11-20T20:47:01Z")
Nah…I may surf it for a sec, just to see what it’s about, but that’s about it. From a standpoint of selling women’s undies, it seems a waste, but I’m sure they’ll make their advertising bucks. The only ones watching probably will be horny teenagers and the like, and not for fashion tips I’m sure… ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/8 "2002-11-20T21:06:48Z")
Given that I’m a big ol’ mo, looking at a Victoria’s Secret model is about as erotic to me as looking at a chair. ---
**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/9 "2002-11-20T21:08:57Z")
I find the sight of Gisele Bundchen walking around in her underwear depressing. I’m probably not the only one. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/10 "2002-11-20T21:16:42Z")
It’s probably most men’s underwear that will need replacing after this shows, not women’s. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/11 "2002-11-20T21:23:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by superbee \* > \*\*The only ones watching probably will be horny teenagers and the like, and not for fashion tips I’m sure… \*\* Well, I think there are some women who will genuinely find it interesting, those that are interested in fashion. My girlfriend, for one. And no, I won’t watch. Like lieu, I’d rather eyeball my own SO than Vic’s models. ---
**Author:** ![YPOD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e99b99/32.png) [@YPOD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YPOD)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/12 "2002-11-20T23:22:20Z")
I won’t be watching the show, but I do get the catalog. I read it for the writing - they always have some great articles. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/13 "2002-11-20T23:41:00Z")
Our local CBS affiliate is choosing to air the show tomorrow at 2 PM because “the producers decided the content was inappropriate for that time slot [9 PM].” I wasn’t going to watch it anyway; I already have my own personal clip of the little peta protestors being ripped off the stage. 😃 Anyway, I think that part was refilmed. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/14 "2002-11-20T23:45:30Z")
I wish I could provide well-pondered, reasoned analysis on this weighty issue. But the whole idea of Tyra Banks strutting about in her undies has a seriously disruptive effect upon my rational prowess… ---
**Author:** ![japatlgt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df705f/32.png) [@japatlgt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/japatlgt)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/15 "2002-11-21T00:02:42Z")
I may watch out of boredom this evening just to see what all the fuss is about. Not to mention that viewing supermodels parade around in their drawers is about as good as anything else on the tube. ---
**Author:** ![red\_dragon60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@red\_dragon60](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/red_dragon60)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/16 "2002-11-21T00:41:16Z")
I will see Heidi Klum tonight. I have seen her in real life and actually met her. So fine, so fine… ---
**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/17 "2002-11-21T02:06:39Z")
Nothing says sexy like the makeup guy backstage covering the model’s ass zits with pancake. :o ---
**Author:** ![roadrunner70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@roadrunner70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roadrunner70)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/18 "2002-11-21T02:25:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jjtm \* > \*\*Well, I think there are some women who will genuinely find it interesting, those that are interested in fashion. My girlfriend, for one. > > And no, I won’t watch. Like lieu, I’d rather eyeball my own SO than Vic’s models. \*\* So, you’re GF is gonna watch, and you’re gonna sit there and just watch her. Wow…you’re a MADMAN…I wanna party with you sometime. My wife was just flipping through the channels (yeah guys, I let her hold the remote, sometimes) and saw a few of 'em on stage…“Who in the hell can wear that shit” (sorry, that’s verbatim) she says. Aside from the ones on the stage, and I’m guessing a small percentage of the earth, who can, and would wear that stuff? I guess that was my point, that it’s more for ogling than selling… So I’m gonna watch _my_ SO…she’s wearing her _GOOD_ robe tonight…grrrr ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/19 "2002-11-21T05:00:00Z")
Meh. It was all right. Probably the only fashion show where the anorexic girls are considered the real duds. And, in my opinion, much less degrading than the Bachelor finale. (Just a little bragging… I worked for Victoria Secret briefly- no pun intended- and their offices were much less thrilling than I thought they’d be. Basically what you saw in the show- white walls and desks, posted photos, fabric samples- but with much less nudity. I was really hoping everyone would be in their skivvies when I got there, and I’d be asked to join the party) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779/20 "2002-11-21T05:06:38Z")
They had it on here at the (gay!) bar tonight and so I was more or less forced to at least look at it occasionally. All I could think was that if I were straight and a woman walked into the bedroom wearing the giant wings and peacock tails and four miles of silk straps wrapped around her arms and legs, I’d probably wonder how the hell I was supposed to get her naked to do what the clothes are supposed to inspire in the first place. And I noticed the makeup folks dusting the one woman’s ass, too. I laughed. Profusely. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-going-to-watch-the-victorias-secret-fashion-show/137779.md?page=2)