# Are You Out Of Your Minds? Us Think Canadiana Are Too Patriotic

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 8, 2003, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741 "2003-12-08T18:38:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/21 "2003-12-08T21:22:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CheekyMonkey613 \*  
> \*\* Hate to break the news, we’re laughing at you. \*\*

Alright, now I’m pissed off.

You do **NOT** speak for me. I thought your OP was as ignorant that the Americans you claim are slagging you off.

If you want to pit individuals for being assholes, fine. But you pit “Americans” IMHO you’re a worse shit-head than the lot of them.

I am not laughing at anyone. I was happy that Canada helped out the US on 9/11 - do you know why? **THEY WOULD DO THE SAME FOR US!**

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/22 "2003-12-08T21:26:27Z")

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Hey, that’s cute, better than being scared of us and scattering your border with pillboxes or something. Americans think there’s something wrong if half the world ISN’T laughing at us.

OTOH, there’s not a lot of Canadian jokes that I’ve heard recently. It’s like laughing at a little old nun in the corner who’s given her life to charity and never raised her voice or hurt a soul. It’s just not–sporting somehow. 😉

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/23 "2003-12-08T21:31:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CheekyMonkey613 \*  
> Why aren’t you tired of Americans who blow their superiority out of their asses, and you wouldn’t have that stereotype?

I am tired of it, and if I see an American post something anti-Canadian, I’ll call them on that too. Thanks for assuming, though.

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> Honestly, if this is the first time you thought Canadians thought you were out to lunch, how wonderful was the sand your head’s been hiding in? Hate to break the news, we’re laughing at you.  
> Kisses, Montreal \*\*

Did you actually read my post, the one where I said I was tired of seeing shit like this on the SDMB? Obviously this isn’t the first time I’ve heard this, but it doesn’t make it any less stupid.

Why the fuck does this need to be a competition? “My country’s better!” “No, my country’s better!” “My country has more money!” “YEAH? Well, we’re laughing at you! Hahaha!” “Well, we don’t care, because we have more money! By the way, we both have the maturity of a three-year-old!”

God fucking dammit.

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/24 "2003-12-08T21:48:36Z")

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International pissing contests are a long-standing tradition. For as long as there have been countries, there have been international pissing contests.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/25 "2003-12-08T21:49:00Z")

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> _Originally posted by CheekyMonkey_  
> Apparently their (the Americans’) biggest problem with Canadians is that we have a Maple Leaf on our luggage/backpacks everywhere we go. Well I venture to say:“It’s because we don’t want to be mistaken as Americans!!!”

You know, if this really is the “biggest problem” we have with you, we must get along _really_ well. I mean, compared to our “biggest problem” with, say, China. Or North Korea. Or Iraq. Of all the infinite ways two nations could come into conflict, the worst thing we could think of to say about you was, “Hey, what’s with that flag?” Good grief. That’s like telling your best friend you think his tie is tacky.

As for the chatrooms… Well, it’s been my experience that chat rooms attract assholes like a giant fecal electro-magnet. The OP only reinforces that opinion.

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**Author:** ![CheekyMonkey613](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e480ec/32.png) [@CheekyMonkey613](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheekyMonkey613)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/26 "2003-12-08T21:59:17Z")

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Believe me, I don’t put all Americans in the same basket. If you’ve never heard any attitudes that I’ve expressed, I’d love to live where you are. I have Repeatedly. Why would I lie?

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**Author:** ![CheekyMonkey613](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e480ec/32.png) [@CheekyMonkey613](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheekyMonkey613)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/27 "2003-12-08T22:20:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> \*\*You know, if this really is the “biggest problem” we have with you, we must get along _really_ well. I mean, compared to our “biggest problem” with, say, China. Or North Korea. Or Iraq. Of all the infinite ways two nations could come into conflict, the worst thing we could think of to say about you was, “Hey, what’s with that flag?” Good grief. That’s like telling your best friend you think his tie is tacky.
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> Don’t estimate “biggest problem” with biggest enemy. You THINK that you could take on Canada. You underestimate the countries behind us. Just cause we don’t bow down to your every beckon call doesn’t mean that we’ve lost all respect in the world. As a matter of fact, we’ve gained it. As my brother says in any brawl, “Their worse mistake is to underestimate you”. Well go right ahead, underestimate us.
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> As for the chatrooms… Well, it’s been my experience that chat rooms attract assholes like a giant fecal electro-magnet. The OP only reinforces that opinion. \*\*

Who the hell mentioned that it was our biggest problem we had with the USA? I was talking about OTHER COUNTRIES ~ APART from the good ol’ US of A. Doesn’t surprise me that you took it to mean your country… Your insular attitudes lead you to that. YOO HOO check your borders.

BIG FUCKING surprise… there’s a world beyond JFK airport!

You may think I’m sour; I guarantee you, a LOT of people think the same. Get off your fucking high horses and you might resolve a conflict or two ( or 100 ).

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**Author:** ![CheekyMonkey613](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e480ec/32.png) [@CheekyMonkey613](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheekyMonkey613)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/28 "2003-12-08T22:23:45Z")

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If you think I’m wrong, you’re not talkin to enough Canadians

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/29 "2003-12-08T22:25:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CheekyMonkey613 \*  
> \*\* Get off your fucking high horses and you might resolve a conflict or two ( or 100 ). \*\*

Most unintentionally ironic statement of the day.

Pot, I would like you to meet the kettle…

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/30 "2003-12-08T23:07:13Z")

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Listen you sanctimonious prat, the number of stupid venal Americans is eclipses only by provincial, hand wringing Canadian fuckwits possessed of a remarkable smug self-righteousness that could choke a horse.

You do not speak for me. You do not speak for Canadians any more than the morons you wind up dealing with do Americans. Maybe you’re keeping your own company.

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/31 "2003-12-08T23:21:29Z")

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Oh, and what the hell why this quote attributed to **Miller**? (bolding mine)

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> Originally posted by CheeseMonkey613
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> > Originally posted by Miller  
> > You know, if this really is the “biggest problem” we have with you, we must get along really well. I mean, compared to our “biggest problem” with, say, China. Or North Korea. Or Iraq. Of all the infinite ways two nations could come into conflict, the worst thing we could think of to say about you was, “Hey, what’s with that flag?” Good grief. That’s like telling your best friend you think his tie is tacky.
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> > **Don’t estimate “biggest problem” with biggest enemy. You THINK that you could take on Canada. You underestimate the countries behind us. Just cause we don’t bow down to your every beckon call doesn’t mean that we’ve lost all respect in the world. As a matter of fact, we’ve gained it. As my brother says in any brawl, “Their worse mistake is to underestimate you”. Well go right ahead, underestimate us.**
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> > As for the chatrooms… Well, it’s been my experience that chat rooms attract assholes like a giant fecal electro-magnet. The OP only reinforces that opinion.

I don’t see where **Miller** said that anywhere in this thread. And I’d love to know just what the hell that meant.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/32 "2003-12-08T23:25:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CheekyMonkey613 \*  
> **Telephone lines were JAMMED to give blood.**

You guys can give blood through the phone lines?!? :eek: Shit, that alone would make me proud to be a Canadian.

😉

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/33 "2003-12-08T23:27:59Z")

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I LOVE your **posting** STYLE.

**TAGS** “are” FUN!!!

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/34 "2003-12-08T23:31:56Z")

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> ton front est sein…

You have **breasts** on your _ **forehead??!** _

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/35 "2003-12-08T23:33:23Z")

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**Grey** , I believe that was **CheekyMonkey** ’s response to my first paragraph. You can tell, because it’s just as random and incoherent as the stuff he posted outside the quote brackets.

Seriously, dude. “Take on Canada”? Where the Hell did you get that from? Are you reading some other message board and posting your responses here?

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/36 "2003-12-08T23:40:14Z")

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Well, golly, if you don’t like America, just leave and start your own darn country.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/37 "2003-12-08T23:47:04Z")

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Damn, this hoser’s just had one too many Mooseheads. Take off, eh?

On a more serious note: I see more Canadian flags along the Niagara River border than American flags. This means something. I think.

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**Author:** ![CheekyMonkey613](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e480ec/32.png) [@CheekyMonkey613](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheekyMonkey613)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/38 "2003-12-08T23:49:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Kyla \*  
> \*\*Why the fuck does this need to be a competition? “My country’s better!” "No, my country’s better!"God fucking dammit. \*\*

I agree completely. Ironically, it seems your country is disgraced at agreement of being EQUAL to Canada. Watch:  
USA IS EQUAL TO CANADA IN EVERY WAY

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/39 "2003-12-08T23:53:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CheekyMonkey613 \*  
> \*\*USA IS EQUAL TO CANADA IN EVERY WAY \*\*

Not true! _We_ can’t send blood through the phone lines! (Yet…)  
[sub]I’m never calling Canada again.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-out-of-your-minds-us-think-canadiana-are-too-patriotic/217741/40 "2003-12-09T00:08:18Z")

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The good old days, before World War 2, when America was not involved in all of the world’s bullshit. The United States needs to close down its overseas military bases, pull its troops back in and let the rest of the world go fuck itself. Why in the fuck are US soldiers in South Korea, Germany and a host of other countries which don’t want or need its troops? Let the rest of the world deal with its problems while American troops and tax dollars are used in the United States.

The next time a dictatorship decides to start overrunning countries and people are asking the United States for help, the answer can simply be, “Sorry, we tried that once and it was too much hassle. Deal with it yourselves.”. In fact, next time Bosnia turns into a bloodbath or Somalia slides into chaos, let Canadian, German, Russian or French soldiers deal with it. Why should United States soldiers be sent to warzones which have no strategic interest for the United States only to be killed and dragged through the streets?

Those foreign aid dollars can be used very nicely to help American homeless people and solve American problems. What’s that Turkey? You want 26 Billion dollars to help us in a war? Well, truth be told, we really don’t need allies like that so nevermind. The United States does not need allies or “friends” so a simple isolationist foreign policy will do nicely.

India and Pakistan can turn each other into radioactive wastelands. China can invade Taiwan and threaten Japan. Europe can do whatever it wants which will probably involve WWIII since it is long overdue for Europe to start a world war. The United States will watch it all on TV and rest easy knowing that not one US soldier or dollar of aid is involved in any of it.

Maybe some administration will be smart enough to invest in developing a hydrogen based economy and then the Middle East will also become a non-factor.

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