# Are you planning to vote for GOP candidate/against Obama in '12?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 3, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662 "2012-03-03T19:23:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/21 "2012-03-04T18:53:54Z")

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i would vote for Obama “no matter what” because I think he’s doing a fantastic job. Even a sane republican wouldn’t temp me away this year.

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**Author:** ![Jasper\_Kent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@Jasper\_Kent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasper_Kent)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/22 "2012-03-04T19:42:41Z")

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I’ll vote for Obama(again) even though I’m in a red state and my vote won’t count(again).

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/23 "2012-03-04T19:52:52Z")

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There’s no way on Og’s blue marble I’d ever vote for a nominee from today’s GOP.

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/24 "2012-03-05T03:12:28Z")

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Psst…, **prr** …

If you really want to get honest answers to your poll, you might want to state the OP in more neutral terms. I’m willing to bet that many people who plan to vote against Obama would skip over this poll after reading the OP.

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**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/25 "2012-03-05T03:27:55Z")

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Other: I am an ex-Republican, now a strait ticket, yellow dog, blue state Democrat.

Republicans played me for a chump too goddam long. Forever fuck them.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/26 "2012-03-05T04:09:20Z")

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I voted “we’ll see after the GOP picks one” but I should add that it _doesn’t_ mean that there’s a chance in hell that I’ll vote for Obama. I’d vote for Newt, I’d vote for Romey. Paul is not a worry. But If Santorum gets the nomination, a prospect that fills me with both despair and horror given that I find him odious too and realize his nomination will without a doubt mean a 2nd term for Obama, I’ll have to debate between writing in a candidate or not voting at all.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/27 "2012-03-05T04:24:00Z")

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How many electoral votes does the sdmb have? Cause that’s good news for Obama.

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**Author:** ![Lanzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Lanzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lanzy)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/28 "2012-03-05T04:30:42Z")

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If you point a gun at me and demand I vote republican, I won’t.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/29 "2012-03-05T04:32:31Z")

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Inclined to Obama. Except for Romney, they are all insane.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/30 "2012-03-05T04:40:50Z")

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Since I very much favor do-nothing Congress, if it looks like Republicans will take the Senate and keep the House, I would much prefer Obama to be President to provide the necessary gridlock.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/31 "2012-03-05T05:08:27Z")

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Not to hijack, but I’d be surprised if the dems lose the senate. McCaskill will win MO, and Dems will probably win in MA and possibly in ME, shifting those two states. We’ll see though.

Anyway I’d vote for Obama over any of the four choices. Against some I’d find a way to vote twice just to be really sure.

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/32 "2012-03-05T05:12:37Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Are you planning to vote for GOP candidate/against Obama in '12?

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, _tear_

Yeah, and when I get done voting, I’m going to hit myself in the head with a hammer.

The only way I’d consider voting for a republican is if they dropped every one of their socially conservative positions, advocated for a strong social safety net and actually got serious about creating a workable budget for the government. Except then they’d be democrats.

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**Author:** ![PandaBear77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@PandaBear77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PandaBear77)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/33 "2012-03-05T05:32:10Z")

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> [@JThunder](#):
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> Psst…, **prr** …
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> If you really want to get honest answers to your poll, you might want to state the OP in more neutral terms. I’m willing to bet that many people who plan to vote against Obama would skip over this poll after reading the OP.

Indeed. It may as well read “Not voting for Obama? Come in here so we can skewer you!”

I’ll pass, kthx.

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/34 "2012-03-05T05:36:11Z")

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Voting for republicans is one of those things that I understand in the abstract, but when I’m actually confronted with it, it’s like you told me 1+2=purple. I. just. don’t. get it.

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/35 "2012-03-05T06:02:56Z")

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The Republican Party is the party of lunatics, thugs, bigots, plutocrats, religious fanatics, and fools & scum in general. They are neither capable of nor interested in good government, and are undeserving of any position of authority whatsoever, and under no circumstances would I vote for them. I despise the Democrats & Obama, but realistically it’s either the Democrats or the Republicans, which means it’s the Democrats.

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**Author:** ![Enlightening\_Meditation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecc23a/32.png) [@Enlightening\_Meditation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enlightening_Meditation)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/36 "2012-03-05T06:36:30Z")

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I selected ‘other’. I’m likely voting 3rd party for president, most likely Gary Johnson, a libertarian candidate and former Republican governor of New Mexico who dropped out of the Republican primary in December. I don’t like either of the two major parties.

> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> Just wondering, because the more I regard this fucked-up field spouting hateful nonsense I wonder who can support such a choice.

What’s this “fucked-up field spouting hateful nonsense” that you speak of? There’s a lot of nonsense in politics, please specify.

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/37 "2012-03-05T08:31:28Z")

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> [@PandaBear77](#):
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> Indeed. It may as well read “Not voting for Obama? Come in here so we can skewer you!”
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> I’ll pass, kthx.

No matter how neutrally I managed to phrase the OP, there will always be some Obama-haters who would think they’re being lured into some kind of devious trap. This way, I was perfectly open about my own opinions, and perfectly neutral in the phrasing of the poll questions. I also am not discussing, much less skewering, anyone for his or her answers to poll questions, though it might be interesting to see who wanted to lend his or her name to support of the GOP. In my own view, it marks you as “batshit-insane hater” and I can understand how you might like to scurry away from that designation.

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/38 "2012-03-05T08:32:57Z")

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> [@Enlightening\_Meditation](#):
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> What’s this “fucked-up field spouting hateful nonsense” that you speak of? There’s a lot of nonsense in politics, please specify.

Read a newspaper or watch TV. Or google “contraception.”

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/39 "2012-03-05T12:31:45Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> No matter how neutrally I managed to phrase the OP, there will always be some Obama-haters who would think they’re being lured into some kind of devious trap.

Nonsense. All you have to do is ask whether people plan to vote against Obama or not, then present the poll options that you provided. Remove the venom and the problem is solved.

Besides, even if we were to grant your claim, there’s still a huge difference between phrasing the OP such that _some_ people might think it’s a trap and using language which pretty much _guarantees_ that they’ll view it as an open invitation to be publicly castigated.

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-gop-candidate-against-obama-in-12/614662/40 "2012-03-05T12:33:03Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> I also am not discussing, much less skewering, anyone for his or her answers to poll questions, though it might be interesting to see who wanted to lend his or her name to support of the GOP. In my own view, it marks you as “batshit-insane hater” and I can understand how you might like to scurry away from that designation.

**prr** , do you not see how your second statement fails to lend credence to the first?

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