# Are you sure you know who God is?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 13, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422 "2013-07-13T20:24:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/101 "2013-07-17T11:50:23Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> COOL! I’m a GOD now !!!
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> All bow before Simster!
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> And no - I don’t want to trade places with any of you - I am looking for a starship, however.

The Psalmist says in psalm 81 or 82 depending on which Bible you use; “I said you are gods and sons of god”, Jesus backs this up in John 10, and speaks of the writings of the psalms as “Your Law” no mention of God’s Law or My father’s law. He is quoted as saying ." Scripture is good for teaching".

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/102 "2013-07-17T14:33:45Z")

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> [@Okieshowedem](#):
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> Here in the book of Nachumyah

I’m not familiar with that particular text. Which version of the Bible does it come in?

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> we can read about the God of this world that is written about in 2 Cor.4:4 in chapter 3: 4-6 G4All because of the multitude of the whoredoms of the seductive harlot, the mistress of witchcrafts; who sells nations through her whoredoms, and families through her witchcrafts. 5 Behold, I am against you, says Yahweh of hosts: and I will lift your skirts over your face, I will show the nations your nakedness, and the kingdoms your shame. 6 I will throw abominable filth upon you, make you vile, and make you a spectacle to stare at.

Wait, this Yahweh cat is running around yanking clothes off a woman and showing her nakedness, and **she** is the evil one?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/103 "2013-07-17T14:56:25Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> I’m not familiar with that particular text. Which version of the Bible does it come in?

[Welcome to the deep end, and enjoy your swim.](http://www.sabbathcovenant.com/book3TheGreatDesception/Chapter9.htm) If you scroll down about 2/3 of the way down under the heading “ **Jesus not even the proper translation into Latin** ” you will find

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> Nahum – should be Nachumyah meaning “Consolation of Yahweh”

, Nahum being a book in the Jewish Bible.

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/104 "2013-07-17T14:58:08Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> I’m not familiar with that particular text. Which version of the Bible does it come in?

Nachumyah = Nehemiah.

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/105 "2013-07-17T15:00:34Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [Welcome to the deep end, and enjoy your swim.](http://www.sabbathcovenant.com/book3TheGreatDesception/Chapter9.htm) If you scroll down about 2/3 of the way down under the heading “ **Jesus not even the proper translation into Latin** ” you will find , Nahum being a book in the Jewish Bible.

Huh, I thought it was another english spelling of the Hebrew name. Interesting. Even weirder, but interesting.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/106 "2013-07-18T16:42:01Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> > [@lekatt](#):
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> > Being disrespectful to other religions is just not nice.
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> yet being disrespectful of other religions is religion’s main mantra.

**Simster** makes a very good point here. Just about every religion teaches at great length why all of the other religions are wrong and their followers are doomed.

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**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/107 "2013-07-18T20:25:04Z")

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[quote=“Gary “Wombat” Robson, post:106, topic:663422”]

**Simster** makes a very good point here. Just about every religion teaches at great length why all of the other religions are wrong and their followers are doomed.  
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That is not true any more, only the most fundamental religions teach that now.  
There are many loving dedicated people who go to church and help others.  
There is no justification in attacking others. Two wrongs don’t make a right.  
The more one loves the happier he will become. Love heals.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/108 "2013-07-18T20:29:07Z")

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While the sun shines make your hay -  
Where a will is, there’s a way -  
Beard the lion in his lair -  
None but the brave deserve the fair!

Nothing venture, nothing win -  
Blood is thick, but water’s thin -  
In for a penny, in for a pound -  
It’s Love that makes the world go round!

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/109 "2013-07-18T20:34:44Z")

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> [@lekatt](#):
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> That is not true any more, only the most fundamental religions teach that now.  
> There are many loving dedicated people who go to church and help others.  
> There is no justification in attacking others. Two wrongs don’t make a right.  
> The more one loves the happier he will become. Love heals.

Laughter is the best medicine.

Unless you have diabetes, and then insulin is the best medicine.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/110 "2013-07-18T22:18:34Z")

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> [@lekatt](#):
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> That is not true any more, only the most fundamental religions teach that now.  
> There are many loving dedicated people who go to church and help others.  
> There is no justification in attacking others. Two wrongs don’t make a right.  
> The more one loves the happier he will become. Love heals.

How many Christian churches do you know of that do not teach that Wiccans and other Pagans are evil and bound for hell? How many Islamic temples teach that Jews are good people?

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**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/111 "2013-07-19T00:20:39Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> While the sun shines make your hay -  
> Where a will is, there’s a way -  
> Beard the lion in his lair -  
> None but the brave deserve the fair!
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> Nothing venture, nothing win -  
> Blood is thick, but water’s thin -  
> In for a penny, in for a pound -  
> It’s Love that makes the world go round!

Everyone has the right to be wrong  
To read a different page  
To sing a different song

So before you attempt to correct another  
Check to see if you are  
Truer than your brother

Then skip this correction of another  
For everyone has the right to be wrong

The fires of hell have gone out,  
smothered by the grace of a loving God,  
quenched by the tears of His forgiveness.

Only the void is left, shadowy darkness,  
a place of black silence, nothingness.

If you find yourself in the darkness,  
cry out for help, ask for the light,  
and your plea will be quickly answered.

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**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/112 "2013-07-19T00:24:26Z")

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[quote=“Gary “Wombat” Robson, post:110, topic:663422”]

How many Christian churches do you know of that do not teach that Wiccans and other Pagans are evil and bound for hell? How many Islamic temples teach that Jews are good people?  
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Presbyterian  
Unitarian  
Unity  
Spiritual  
New Age

to name a few

and the ones you names are not Christian.

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**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/113 "2013-07-19T00:25:40Z")

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> [@hotflungwok](#):
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> Laughter is the best medicine.
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> Unless you have diabetes, and then insulin is the best medicine.

Only if you are laughing with others not at them.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/114 "2013-07-19T01:40:23Z")

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> [@lekatt](#):
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> . . . If you find yourself in the darkness,  
> cry out for help, ask for the light,  
> and your plea will be quickly answered.

Not true, sir. Not true.

First hand experience here. A plea for help is often simply ignored by an impersonal universe.

God may have talked to you, but he gave me the cold shoulder.

I will not call you a liar… But what you say is, in at least one instance, absolutely not true.

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**Author:** ![Okieshowedem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/okieshowedem/32/7278_2.png) [@Okieshowedem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okieshowedem)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/115 "2013-07-19T02:34:45Z")

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> [@hotflungwok](#):
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> Nachumyah = Nehemiah.

[http://www.yahweh.com/htmls/Book-of-Yahweh/BoY.html](http://www.yahweh.com/htmls/Book-of-Yahweh/BoY.html)

Okie

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**Author:** ![Okieshowedem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/okieshowedem/32/7278_2.png) [@Okieshowedem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okieshowedem)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/116 "2013-07-19T02:39:54Z")

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[http://www.sabbathcovenant.com/book3TheGreatDesception/aTOC.htm](http://www.sabbathcovenant.com/book3TheGreatDesception/aTOC.htm)

Okie

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/117 "2013-07-19T02:54:57Z")

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> [@Okieshowedem](#):
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> [http://www.yahweh.com/htmls/Book-of-Yahweh/BoY.html](http://www.yahweh.com/htmls/Book-of-Yahweh/BoY.html)

I asked you earlier not to link to this site so often. Since I can’t tell what it has to do with the post you are responding to, I’m going to say it again: don’t link to that site unless it is 100% appropriate to the discussion.

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**Author:** ![Okieshowedem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/okieshowedem/32/7278_2.png) [@Okieshowedem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okieshowedem)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/118 "2013-07-19T03:13:22Z")

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> [@hotflungwok](#):
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> Nachumyah = Nehemiah.

Would like to know if ours reads the same.  
thanks

Okie

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**Author:** ![Okieshowedem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/okieshowedem/32/7278_2.png) [@Okieshowedem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okieshowedem)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/119 "2013-07-19T03:16:10Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I asked you earlier not to link to this site so often. Since I can’t tell what it has to do with the post you are responding to, I’m going to say it again: don’t link to that site unless it is 100% appropriate to the discussion.

Hope you don’t mind.

Okie

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-sure-you-know-who-god-is/663422/120 "2013-07-19T05:18:51Z")

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> [@Okieshowedem](#):
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> Hope you don’t mind.
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> Okie

You know, how about posting the answer - or an excerpt - or your best understanding of the answer and then post a link as a cite/reference - that way you’ve actually contributed a response AND you’ve backed it up with where you got said answer.

Otherwise - you’re not even really trying.

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