# Are you Team Trayvon or Team Zimmerman? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881 "2012-03-26T21:27:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/521 "2012-03-29T17:31:59Z")
> [@Schyler](#): > > Or maybe that “authorities” and “sources in the police department” stories don’t exist either. As Eugene V. Debs is my witness, I haven’t the slightest idea what you are trying to say here. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/522 "2012-03-29T17:34:11Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Perhaps this [blog post](http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/03/sourcing-narrative-facts-in-the-martin-case/) will shed some light on your question. Your choices in reading material shed quite a bit of light, but I suspect not in the ways you’d hoped. ---
**Author:** ![bacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b782af/32.png) [@bacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bacon)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/523 "2012-03-29T17:34:59Z")
One guy killed another guy. Happens every day. Time to move on. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/524 "2012-03-29T17:35:53Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > Oh but it did! Haven’t you been schooled by Terr that “initial report” doesn’t refer to the first report that is made, it actually refers to the report filed by the first officer on the scene. (Where is Terr, anyway, now that we have video of poor George?) Terr has been in hospital for half a day. RL sometimes interferes. And yes, the initial report would be the report filed by the first officer on the scene no matter whether it was filed later. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/525 "2012-03-29T17:36:23Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Perhaps this [blog post](http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/03/sourcing-narrative-facts-in-the-martin-case/) will shed some light on your question. No, not really. But at least there is no advertisement urging me to meet young Ukrainian women. May I ask how you come across these? ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/526 "2012-03-29T17:37:36Z")
> [@camille](#): > > How could the _initial_ police report have Trayvon’s full name and info in it? I thought he was _initially_ listed as a John Doe? If you’re aware of a police report prior to that one, please present one. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/527 "2012-03-29T17:37:44Z")
> [@bacon](#): > > One guy killed another guy. Happens every day. Time to move on. It will be time to move on when it does not happen every day. From my lips to the Ears. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/528 "2012-03-29T17:37:57Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > No, not really. In that case, I have no idea what you are trying to ask about. I meant exactly what I said, nothing more and nothing less. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/529 "2012-03-29T17:39:43Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > If you’re aware of a police report prior to that one, please present one. I think the suggestion may be that the initial report was amended. For good reasons or no. You seem to have some difficulty grasping this. ---
**Author:** ![bacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b782af/32.png) [@bacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bacon)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/530 "2012-03-29T17:42:04Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > It will be time to move on when it does not happen every day. From my lips to the Ears. Good luck with that dream. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/531 "2012-03-29T17:44:43Z")
You ended a two year silence to tell us we care too much? Really? ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/532 "2012-03-29T17:45:07Z")
> [@rogerbox](#): > > I heard that in one of the 40-odd calls to 911, he reported a suspicious black male, “7-9” years old For crying out loud, yes, he reported a “black male”, 7 to 9 years old, and was worried about his safety walking by himself. ---
**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/533 "2012-03-29T17:45:37Z")
I > [@Schyler](#): > > Age discrimination is against the law too, or maybe you’re too busy creating nasty words to have read about it. No it isn’t, it is perfectly legal to not hire someone for being too young. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/534 "2012-03-29T17:45:39Z")
> [@](#): > > Good luck with that dream. Gave up on it as a political effort. Firmly in the “Keep the goddam things if they mean that much to you!” camp. In America today, no force can withstand the power of the NRA. Got to pick your battles, and we can’t win that one. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/535 "2012-03-29T17:47:25Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > For crying out loud, yes, he reported a “black male”, 7 to 9 years old, and was worried about his safety walking by himself. Please submit your Certificate of Telepathic Powers for inspection. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/536 "2012-03-29T17:49:12Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Perhaps this [blog post](http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/03/sourcing-narrative-facts-in-the-martin-case/) will shed some light on your question. While I appreciate the devotion to accuracy, I’m not sure that the revelation that Martin was not, in fact, carrying Skittles after all would necessarily exonerate Zimmerman. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/537 "2012-03-29T17:52:41Z")
If he was not out getting Skittles, well, then, what _was_ he up to? We already have expert testimony that he looked like he was on drugs! ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/538 "2012-03-29T17:54:21Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > If Zimmerman is protected by Stand Your Ground, why wasn’t Martin? He also stood his ground. I just wish he’d stood it with one hell of a lot more force. Maybe he was. But since Zimmerman is the defendant in this case, the law is more relevant when applied to him. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/539 "2012-03-29T17:54:22Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Bit late to the party, then. I think it’s a bit early to jump to conclusions about her being a grasping bitch, anyway; makes perfect sense to me that she might think she could do some good with the money. I doubt it was her idea. More likely it was a lawyer thinking ahead to payday. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881/540 "2012-03-29T17:57:38Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > Maybe he was. But since Zimmerman is the defendant in this case, the law is more relevant when applied to him. By God, you are on solid ground with that! Indeed, he is the defendant! Except, of course, that he hasn’t been _charged_ with anything. At all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-team-trayvon-or-team-zimmerman/616881.md?page=28)