# Are you trying to discourage conservatives from staying at SDMB?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 9, 2007, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259 "2007-01-09T04:25:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/41 "2007-01-09T15:44:15Z")

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**Bricker** doesn’t get sniped at?

Maybe not as much as some, but (IMO), he gets more grief than he deserves.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/42 "2007-01-09T15:50:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Random]  
**Bricker** doesn’t get sniped at?

Maybe not as much as some, but (IMO), he gets more grief than he deserves.  
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I agree he gets more grief than he deserves, but he gets far more respect and a lot less grief than **Shodan** as a specific example.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/43 "2007-01-09T15:57:20Z")

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Then I will take it that my point, which was that conservatives get more grief than they deserve, has been established.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/44 "2007-01-09T15:57:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Muffin]  
Very true. Which means that on a board that generally generally leans to the American left, someone one the American right might find the signal to noise ratio very high.  
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That’s a good observation, and one that is true of me. To extend the analogy, I generally find the content of the signal worth suffering through the noise.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/45 "2007-01-09T16:00:58Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
I agree he gets more grief than he deserves, but he gets far more respect and a lot less grief than **Shodan** as a specific example.

Jim  
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I don’t know how much grief he gets, nor how much he deserves, but **bricker** is, like most of us, a layer cake. He is a mix of a layer of rich, moist Devil’s food chocolate, and a layer of fruit cake.

He’s surely intelligent, and contributes a lot of great stuff, but he also spent a long time doing an in-your-face touchdown celebration dance about the outcomes of the elections of 2002 and 2004 (IIRC) that sure didn’t do much for me. He also seemed to say, again IIRC, that winning the elections implied Bush’s positions were good or right independent of their merits. How much grief such positions deserve is in the eye of the beholder, I’m sure.

I think his presence is a good thing, and I’m pleased that he’s managed to have the strength to stand against the gale force of blustering liberalism here, like a stalwart live-shot TV news personality. I like chocolate cake.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/46 "2007-01-09T16:02:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Mangetout]  
Or bedwetting.  
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Can we sign up for tears instead?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/47 "2007-01-09T16:03:48Z")

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[QUOTE=TheLoadedDog]  
I am a fellow conservative…I feel pretty welcome.  
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You’re conservative on the _non-US_ scale. The realiity-based one. No wonder.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/48 "2007-01-09T16:08:53Z")

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[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves]  
You’re conservative on the _non-US_ scale. The realiity-based one. No wonder.  
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**Elvis** , I’m conservative on the US scale, which I suppose is the fantasy-based one, and I still enjoy my time here. I haven’t felt that anyone has hounded me.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/49 "2007-01-09T16:11:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Muffin]  
From the thread that discussed his departure: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6198005&postcount=115](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6198005&postcount=115)

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> Putting politics aside, I found Manhattan getting more and more viscous in his posts.

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So you are saying he was a bit thick?

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/50 "2007-01-09T16:17:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Shodan]  
Then I will take it that my point, which was that conservatives get more grief than they deserve, has been established.

Regards,  
Shodan  
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I disagree. While **Bricker** takes more grief than he deserves, you assuredly endure less. On average, perhaps it is tough to say.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/51 "2007-01-09T16:29:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Shodan]  
Then I will take it that my point, which was that conservatives get more grief than they deserve, has been established.  
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I take it that my point that we are in desperate need of contributions from intelligent conservatives is now further supported.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/52 "2007-01-09T16:30:34Z")

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Don’t you know by now, **Hentor**? BUSHLIEDBUSHLIEDBUSHLIEDBUSHLIED 😃

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/53 "2007-01-09T16:34:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Shodan]  
Then I will take it that my point, which was that conservatives get more grief than they deserve, has been established.

Regards,  
Shodan  
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I only agreed **Bricker** gets more grief than he deserves. I think you pretty much have earned the grief you get by many post that are provacative\*. Besides I am not even a liberal, just a moderate trying to look at both sides of most issues.  
Almost any frequent poster in GD or the Pit ends up deserving some grief.

Jim

- This could be considered good or bad, just like many of your posts.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/54 "2007-01-09T16:52:34Z")

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I agree that the moderators here do a good job at separating their moderating from their general posting. However, I can understand that some posters may struggle to separate the two sides of the mod, particularly if they both disagree with a mods personal views _and_ post in such a way that they sometimes recieve warnings or official moderator comment.

I’ve been thinking lately, that the boards may benefit from some restrictions in how the mods post. Perhaps it would be best if a moderator who was participating in a thread, refrained from moderating it. If something needed moderating then they could bring it to the attention of another mod who would step in and take the appropriate action.

The benefit would be clearer poster/moderator distinction for mods. The down side would the need for mods to be very careful about which threads they became actively involved in, as they’d always have to make sure there were other mods available to do the moderating.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/55 "2007-01-09T17:04:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
So you are saying he was a bit thick?  
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Sad to say that I used to taught English at university. Looks like I’m the one who’s a bit thick.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/56 "2007-01-09T17:06:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Muffin]  
Sad to say that I used to taught English at university. Looks like I’m the one who’s a bit thick.  
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“I used to taught?” I think my brain is oozing out onto the keyboard.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/57 "2007-01-09T17:14:45Z")

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I’ve never felt like I was treated badly or unfairly most the times I’ve been chastened, mostly by fellow posters. Certainly not in a way to be turned off by the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/58 "2007-01-09T17:36:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]  
I take it that my point that we are in desperate need of contributions from intelligent conservatives is now further supported.  
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See what I mean? **Hentor** pulls this shit on conservative posters all the time.

Not that it always comes from morons like him. Would that it did, it would be easier to take if all the snipers were as contemptible as he is.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/59 "2007-01-09T17:51:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]

Smart conservatives, your numbers here seem to be dwindling. Either that, or your stupid brethren are just being more vocal than you.  
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One can also say the same for the liberals.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-trying-to-discourage-conservatives-from-staying-at-sdmb/387259/60 "2007-01-09T17:52:15Z")

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You know, there’s more to talk about besides politics around here.

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