Yeah, my apologies to any Herberts here, but when I hear “Herbie”, I do think of a teenage dork, wearing white socks with sandals.
By the way, I do try hard to not make assumptions about people by what they wear… but damn, dress socks with shorts (and especially with sandals*) does make someone look like they have no idea how dweeby they are.
*eta: or better yet, flip flops, so their tube socks have to bunch up between the first and second toes. Ewww…
I went to school in northern Indiana in the last 1960s/early 1970s. I was occasionally teased for wearing white socks, but nobody ever called them Herbies. It was just “Are you a White Sox fan?”
I know there are several Michiganders on this board, but I didn’t know you were a former Michigander, however briefly, Qadgop-- for the first 6 or 7 years of my life. I used to work in Livonia (years later, of course; no child labor laws were broken).
Yeah, I left Wisconsin at age 6, as my dad climbed the corporate ladder. So I got to be an honorary ‘Flintstone’ with 2 years in that city, followed by 4+ years in Livonia, where I became one of the original mall rats by hanging out at the Livonia Mall in elementary and junior high school. There I learned the term ‘witches night’ for Halloween Eve (which also happens to be my birthday). No ‘herbies’ though.
Haha, though it’s a perfectly obvious nickname now that I hear it, this is the first time I’ve heard that residents of Flint refer to themselves as ‘Flintstones’.
I always knew it as “Devil’s Night”. In the suburbs it meant writing profanity on car windows with soap and throwing eggs or rotten tomatoes at houses. Also toilet-papering front yard trees. I was mostly a good kid, but one Devil’s Night when I was around 14 or so, I did run with a bad crowd, and I’m not proud to admit I threw a few tomatoes and soaped a few windows.
In the city of Detroit though, Devil’s Night meant full-on arson, burning down abandoned houses. At its peak in the 80s, hundreds of house fires a night overwhelmed the Detroit Fire Dept. A community movement called Angel’s Night finally (mostly) stopped the widespread arson, starting in the 90s.
As a kid, I always thought it was weird that “Devil’s Night” was the night before Halloween, not the night after. The very phrase “trick or treat” implies that if a treat is not given, then that house will pay the consequences. If Devil’s Night was the next night, the non-candy giving houses could then be pranked. Not that I’m endorsing the idea, it just seemed like it would have made more sense.
This is what I came in to suggest. I never heard the term before, but this seemed like the obvious souyrce.
Herbie was a character in the brand Z American Comics Group (ACG) series Herbie that ran from 1963 to 1967. I don’t see him wearing white socks in any images (heck, I can’t se his socks at all), but if was wearing any, they’d likely be white
Actually, on the cover of Herbie #1 he appears to be wearing white socks