# Are you worried about violence if Harris wins?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump, kamala-harris\
**Created:** [August 14, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716 "2024-08-14T20:45:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/81 "2024-08-15T17:55:42Z")

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Not too worried. At least for my wife and I. Three couples live on our road. Two are solidly behind Harris. Not so sure about the other couple, just met them really.

What does seem to be ignored again and again is that moderates/liberals are armed too. Not as much, but still a lot.

And how would a civil war go? If Harris wins, who would they attack? I kid not, these idiots would probably loot their local Walmart or some such thing.

Showing their displeasure with liberation. Liberating a new TV.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/82 "2024-08-15T18:24:11Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> @LSLGuy , why’d you have to go injecting logic and reasoning into the thread?
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> (Seriously, a very good post. It certainly made me rethink the OP’s question. Well done!)

My sentiments too, about both the OP and @LSLGuy.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> I’m hoping that he will be defeated so decisively that it makes any claims of a “steal” appear totally absurd.

The election hasn’t happened yet and he’s already made absurd insinuations and accusations just like he did before the last one. And millions of idiots believe him just like they did the last time.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/84 "2024-08-15T18:38:14Z")

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I work the polls in my county every year (including primaries) you wouldn’t believe the insane conspiracies coming out of Republicans when they show up to vote. A lot of times, they’re just kind of yelling it into the air to no one in particular. During the primary, more than one voter didn’t know what party’s ballot they needed and just said “Trump,” many more thought this was the election and didn’t realize they still had to vote again in November.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/85 "2024-08-15T18:48:49Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> many more thought this was the election and didn’t realize they still had to vote again in November.

Were you required to tell them?

ETA: I am certainly not in favor of going around telling anybody that the election’s on a different day than the actual one. But if people are paying so little attention that even by November they think that the primary was the general election – I don’t feel required to go around actively telling them different.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/86 "2024-08-15T19:07:18Z")

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My attitude is that I am there as a steward of democracy. I don’t care how anyone votes, only that they are able to vote and that their vote is recorded correctly. When someone was ranting about illegal aliens, or whatever, I say “ I don’t care _how_ you vote, I’m just here to make sure your vote is counted.”

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/87 "2024-08-15T19:07:58Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> My attitude is that I am there as a steward of democracy. I don’t care how anyone votes, only that they are able to vote and that their vote is recorded correctly.

I imagine that’s completely necessary when you have a position like that.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/88 "2024-08-15T19:09:44Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I imagine that’s completely necessary when you have a position like that.

You’d be surprised, I’ve seen poll workers who are republicans join in with the ranting. I filed a formal complaint after the primary. The county seemed to take it seriously, to their credit.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/89 "2024-08-15T19:13:17Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> My attitude is that I am there as a steward of democracy. I don’t care how anyone votes, only that they are able to vote and that their vote is recorded correctly. When someone was ranting about illegal aliens, or whatever, I say “ I don’t care _how_ you vote, I’m just here to make sure your vote is counted.”

Yes, of course. (Or at least, it ought to be of course.) I was just wondering whether, if they said something that indicated they thought the primary was the general election and they wouldn’t have to vote again later, you had to tell them otherwise. You presumably don’t have to try to, and in fact in that situation shouldn’t try to, correct their info about immigrants. Do you have to correct their info about elections?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/90 "2024-08-15T19:14:36Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I’m a whole lot more worried about violence if Trump wins, as his followers are likely to feel that they won’t be prosecuted for anything they get up to,

trump was still president until Jan 20, how many Pardons did he give to the Jan 6th insurrectionists?

> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> But this time around there is a large, better prepared effort to avoid the messiness of challenging Congress,

“better prepared”? 🤪 And Congress fixed the way they certify elections.

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Voting for a Republican is a sin, everyone knows that.

I voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger for Governator, and i am proud of it.

> [@Leaper](#):
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> The circumstance I most wonder about violence is if Trump strokes out during a debate.

“From your lips to God’s ears”.

> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Half of the voters in this country have proven themselves entirely blind to absurdity.

Let’s set the record straight- **46.9%** voted for trump.

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> I’m hoping that he will be defeated so decisively that it makes any claims of a “steal” appear totally absurd.

Ya mean, like last time?

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/92 "2024-08-15T19:19:36Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> The circumstance I most wonder about violence is if Trump strokes out during a debate. That might inflame the imaginations of some MAGAts in a way most other events wouldn’t.

I cannot imagine a better way for him to depart this earth. For our side that is.

There he is on live TV. Everyone knows it’s live. Then he collapses in a weird heap and a couple minutes later the nearby doc announces “He’s dead, Jim!”

To be sure the CTers and revisionist historians will be putting out fake vids within an hour. But enough people on both sides will have seen what happened.

Now there’s no answer to the “he was poisoned” charge. Or killed by chemtrails, or mind control rays or … Whenever / however trump dies that will still be true.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/93 "2024-08-15T19:21:44Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> > [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> > I’m a whole lot more worried about violence if Trump wins, as his followers are likely to feel that they won’t be prosecuted for anything they get up to,
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> trump was still president until Jan 20, how many Pardons did he give to the Jan 6th insurrectionists?

What they’re likely to feel and what Trump is likely to do are two different things.

In addition: I believe he’s said that he’ll pardon them if he’s re-elected. I don’t think any of them had yet been convicted by 1/20/21, and I don’t think many of them had even been yet officially identified.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/94 "2024-08-15T19:22:24Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Do you have to correct their info about elections?

I don’t know if I’m required to or not, I dont remember that specifically in the training, but it’s been a while.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/95 "2024-08-15T19:23:14Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I don’t think any of them had yet been convicted by 1/20/21

True, but trump could have tried a blanket pardon. But he has shown he doesnt give a good shit about his supporters.

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This is certainly true; but they don’t appear to have noticed.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/97 "2024-08-15T19:27:00Z")

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I was thinking specifically of the idea of Harris herself being in the same room when it happens. JFK would have nothing compared to that fallout.

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> Ya mean, like last time?

Biden won the popular vote by 4%. Not a squeaker but far from a landslide. The electoral vote by the numbers looks more decisive, 306-232, but that’s ignoring how close the margin was on some of the states; Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin all went to Biden by less than a percentage point. If they had tipped just slightly to the right, then Trump would have won the election 288-250.

A decisive win would be a situation where that didn’t happen; where the states Biden wins aren’t decided by a razor thin amount.

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I live in a pretty solidly red state (Kentucky, which has two islands- Louisville and Lexington - that tend to go blue). I’m not really worried about political violence in my area, as I’m among a small group of outliers who will vote for Harris. This area is pretty much Trump supporters, despite Andy Bashear having been elected as governor twice.

There won’t be any violence here because there’s really very few people to direct it against. Trump will win my small town, the state.

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> I was thinking specifically of the idea of Harris herself being in the same room when it happens. JFK would have nothing compared to that fallout.

We live in an era of CTs, where anything, even trump tripping over hsi shoelaces on flat ground will be pounced upon by the CT wackos just to generate page views. And be made far larger than the JFK assassination.

Why/how do you suppose Harris standing there when trump strokes out would add or substract anything from a CT shitstorm that is already going to be 99.99999% deliberate fabrication and 0.0000000000001% fact with the remaining small fraction being plausible supposition?

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