# Are you worried about violence if Harris wins? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, kamala-harris\ **Created:** [August 14, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716 "2024-08-14T20:45:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/101 "2024-08-15T20:16:45Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > January 6 only happened at Trump’s _ **direct order** _. You don’t think he’ll call for violence again? I think it’s inevitable. As we get closer to the election and Kamala continues her momentum, his rhetoric will get more and more violent. I expect the violence will be less organized and more terror-like, with election officials targeted. This will continue until the inauguration. There may be some organized attempts, but we’ll be much more prepared and those will be put down quickly. > [@Monty](#): > > Plenty of them were there with no other pllan than “let’s destroy stuff, let’s hurt people, let’s kill the Dems”. And Mike Pence. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/102 "2024-08-15T20:20:34Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > You don’t think he’ll call for violence again? Yes, but I don’t think he will be out there, in public, talking to a mob of armed people and trying to whip them into a frenzy. Because that is why it happened. That is absolutely not going to happen again. You recall how Trump requested that the metal detectors be removed, and when someone (the Secret Service?) warned Trump that people were armed, his reply was, “They’re not here for me.” Well, since then he’s been shot by one of his followers. There is no way he’s going to do another January 6. He might tweet out a call to arms or whatever, but it isn’t going to have nearly the same effect. > [@Yookeroo](#): > > I expect the violence will be less organized and more terror-like, with election officials targeted. This will continue until the inauguration. That might very well be, but I was addressing the fact that we aren’t going to see another January 6 incident. I would, though, count on someone being violent at some point, because that’s just what happens these days. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/103 "2024-08-15T20:48:28Z")
Yeah, I am not suggesting is wasn’t as close as it was, just that the suggestion there was a “steal” going on was absurd then, as it will be this year. > [@Atamasama](#): > > He might tweet out a call to arms or whatever, but it isn’t going to have nearly the same effect. Exactly. He’s not President this time. He wont be able to stage a rally on government grounds, with all the cameras set-up. If anything, he’ll go back to The Four Seasons Landscaping and set-up shop there again. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/104 "2024-08-15T20:54:54Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > And Mike Pence A Democrat In Everything But Name (DIEBN, which is an anagram of “Biden”, so you know it’s true!). Eta: I’m a little drunk abd can’t speel gud. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/105 "2024-08-15T20:58:19Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > Exactly. He’s not President this time. He wont be able to stage a rally on government grounds, with all the cameras set-up. I hadn’t even considered that angle but you’re 100% correct. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/106 "2024-08-15T21:12:41Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > > [@Yookeroo](#): > > > > And Mike Pence > > A Democrat In Everything But Name (DIEBN, which is an anagram of “Biden”, so you know it’s true!). > > Eta: I’m a little drunk abd can’t speel gud. I enjoyed this, but I think we should be more accurate. For MAGA, you are loyal to Trump, or you are an enemy, no matter your Republican/Conservative/Etc credentials. The term RINO doesn’t even have _meaning_ anymore when applied to individuals such as Cheney, who beats MAGA on any actual “Republican” points. MAGA is it’s own thing, just using the framework of the former Republican party as a puppet. So again, any enemy regardless of their political orientation is “the enemy” and _fair game_ to Trump and the MAGA crazies if they aren’t absolutely loyal. The reverse is sometimes true for Trump as well - look at the early days of RFK Jr.'s effort to run as a Democrat - if it’s helpful to Trump, they can be tolerated or even endorsed. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/107 "2024-08-15T21:20:25Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > As we get closer to the election and Kamala continues her momentum, his rhetoric will get more and more violent. I expect the violence will be less organized and more terror-like, with election officials targeted. This is what I’ve been thinking, but the violence won’t be limited to election officials. MAGAts can’t fathom that Trump can lose fairly, so they’ll be whinging about the “steal” for weeks before the election, and of course Trump will egg them on. So, if a Harris victory appears imminent, I’d expect some of the crazier MAGAts to run cars off the road for sporting Harris bumper stickers, to firebomb polling places in blue neighborhoods (before or during the election), and to commit random violence against people of color. Because any and all of those targets will be in on the “steal” and must be stopped. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/108 "2024-08-15T22:29:47Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Well, since then he’s been shot by one of his followers. There is no way he’s going to do another January 6. You don’t think he actually believes the shooter wasn’t a Democratic Party operative? What’s more important is that his followers believe the shooter was a Democratic Party operative. > [@Monty](#): > > > [@Jasmine](#): > > > > I’m hoping that he will be defeated so decisively that it makes any claims of a “steal” appear totally absurd. > > The election hasn’t happened yet and he’s already made absurd insinuations and accusations just like he did before the last one. And millions of idiots believe him just like they did the last time. [Speaking of which…](https://www.yahoo.com/news/standing-polls-slides-trump-ramps-200644275.html) > **As his standing in the polls slides, Trump ramps up false attacks on election integrity** > > As he peers out at a new political reality, with Vice President Kamala Harris having reversed Democrats’ slide in the race for the White House, former President Donald Trump is rolling out pre-emptive excuses for a possible second defeat. Most are demonstrably false. And his idjits believe him. They still believe the Big Steal lie regardless of actual evidence against it. > [@DrDeth](#): > > True, but trump could have tried a blanket pardon. But he has shown he doesnt give a good shit about his supporters. And why should he? He’s shown he doesn’t give one about cops and many of them support him. He’s shown he doesn’t give one about the military and many of them support him. > [@ParallelLines](#): > > enjoyed this, but I think we should be more accurate. For MAGA, you are loyal to Trump, or you are an enemy, no matter your Republican/Conservative/Etc credentials. Not just an enemy, but a traitor. And he, his flacks, and his followers all demand traitors be hanged publicly. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/109 "2024-08-15T22:32:52Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > You don’t think he actually believes the shooter wasn’t a Democratic Party operative? But now those same operatives might be in the crowds, just like those Antifa infiltrators that started the riots. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/110 "2024-08-15T22:35:18Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > You don’t think he actually believes the shooter wasn’t a Democratic Party operative? What’s more important is that his followers believe the shooter was a Democratic Party operative. This raises an interesting question I have no clue on the answer. What, if anything, is the “official” RW / Faux / QAnon narrative of the assassination attempt? Whatever they’re saying, I grant completely that it has negligible basis in actual fact. But what are they and their MAGAt-o-sphere followers saying is their version of events? Presumably by now they’ve converged on a single sorta coherent superficially plausible narrative. At least if you’re an ignorant MF dumb enough to swallow it. I’m quite happy to remain insulated from their angry fantasy world. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/111 "2024-08-15T22:44:21Z")
Here’s one tweet from my feed. I won’t do him the courtesy of linking to it: > [@](#): > > It’s been 33 days since President Trump was shot in the face… > > Nobody is talking about it. > > Inside job with a media coverup. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/112 "2024-08-15T23:02:32Z")
I’m worried either way. You know, you drink when the home team wins, you drink when the home team loses, you drink when the game gets rained out. Violence is the new drinking. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/113 "2024-08-15T23:19:22Z")
History is just a MadLib to them. If the words fit in the blank spaces, that automatically makes them true. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/114 "2024-08-17T07:39:14Z")
Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/115 "2024-08-17T23:36:12Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > MAGA is it’s own thing, just using the framework of the former Republican party as a puppet. It’s like in the horror movies: "Don’t open the door! That isn’t your brother—_That’s the thing that killed your brother!!_ It’s like those parasites that take over an insect’s brain from within and they use the unfortunate insect as a meat puppet. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/116 "2024-08-18T00:14:40Z")
I think the most commonly used (by myself, and for some others) is the [Edgar](https://meninblack.fandom.com/wiki/Edgar) Suit from Men In Black. You take an entity which was by itself a conglomeration of terrible traits, but at least within normal levels of horrible, and replace it with an unspeakably malignant, deadly, and absolutely aggressive creature which is literally wearing the skin of the prior being, which is constantly decaying. It is worth noting that the prior Edgar, much like the GOP, was a woman abusing, gun worshipping, waste of human potential like so many of the current supporters. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/117 "2024-08-18T00:47:13Z")
This is genius. I’m going to use this in conversation if you don’t mind. Heh, “Egger.” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/118 "2024-08-18T04:07:20Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > It’s like those parasites that take over an insect’s brain from within and they use the unfortunate insect as a meat puppet. Like RKK jrs brain worm? > [@ParallelLines](#): > > It is worth noting that the prior Edgar, much like the GOP, was a woman abusing, gun worshipping, waste of human potential like so many of the current supporters. Just FYI- Edgar has a shotgun- on a farm- like nearly every farmer does. If Edgar is a gun worshiper, you are calling farmers that. I will concede your other points. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/119 "2024-08-18T06:21:27Z")
Edgar’s attitude is far closer to the magic thinking of guns than the rational use of a shotgun against farm pests. I for one (spoilers for a 30+ year old movie) would NOT challenge an alien who just crashed on my farm with an firearm, talk smack to it while brandishing said firearm, and then _point the gun away RIGHT after threatening the alien with it_. That’s firearm bravado, not sane or responsible use. 🙂 Something I am fully willing to distinguish between farmers and ranchers with shotguns and rifles to keep varmits and predators away from their crops and livestock (which I include among my extended family). ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716/120 "2024-08-18T06:25:42Z")
He also says the cliche about “you can have my gun when you take it from my cold dead hands” which means he toes the NRA line at the time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-worried-about-violence-if-harris-wins/1005716.md?page=7)