# Aren't the fucking Jenner/Kardashians over already?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 2, 2017, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696 "2017-05-02T05:05:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/21 "2017-05-04T12:11:47Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> You should read better news media.

They’re all over the “better” news media. In recent days I’ve seen Jenner featured in a blurb for an ABC News online story, and Sports Illustrated had something on a plastic Kardashian.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/22 "2017-05-04T12:35:13Z")

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I’ve literally got a plastic Cardassian!

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/23 "2017-05-04T12:41:22Z")

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Now I’m picturing a Transgender Gul Dukat. Shudder.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/24 "2017-05-04T13:41:54Z")

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> [@AtomicDog](#):
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> Now I’m picturing a Transgender Gul Dukat. Shudder.

[Well, there’s this](http://www.tshirtbordello.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/600x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/k/e/keeping-up-with-the-cardassians-l1_15.gif).

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/25 "2017-05-04T15:49:54Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> I don’t know who they are either. I know about [Cardassians](https://m0vie.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/ds9-cardassians13.jpg), not Kardashians.

I was watching an episode of DS9 the other night when my wife walked into the room right when someone mentioned the Cardassians. My wife stopped and went “Wait…what? Kardashians?” LOL.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/26 "2017-05-04T16:20:06Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> How so? Superrich attention whore. Which he was when he was Bruce Jenner, and is one now that she is Caitlyn Jenner.
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> How exactly does it translate into being an effective spoke_person_?  
> What did happen to the Bruce Jenner dangerous driving case BTW?

Caitlyn is the most famous transgender person in the world. She has made millions of people aware of transgender issues. As I discussed in the original thread when she first came out as transgender, watching her interview with Diane Sawyer was a personal epiphany for me, and changed my attitude toward transgender people. From what I have seen in the media and online, there are many other people who have been similarly affected by her interviews and her T.V. show. Her new book that came out last month is a top seller on Amazon. It certainly has mixed reviews, but there are definitely people who have been educated by her story.

As for her involvement in the car crash, no criminal charges were filed, and she settled the civil cases privately for an undisclosed amount.

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/27 "2017-05-04T16:57:28Z")

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I have tried to avoid these folks as much as possible.  
So I wasn’t aware that Caitlyn Jenner is telling her opinions on whatever issues, but I see nothing wrong in it, on the contrary.

I think too many people see transgender ( etc ) people just some kind of masses of abnormal that happen to be in a human form and totally without any other character traits.  
But with this favorite tree, peanut butter and other stuff she’s actually building up a picture of a whole person who has just as many aspects as anyone - and one of them just happens to be this transgender thing ( and it is not dictating everything that she does or thinks ).

The others are useless.

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/28 "2017-05-04T17:11:52Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> [Well, there’s this](http://www.tshirtbordello.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/600x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/k/e/keeping-up-with-the-cardassians-l1_15.gif).

[There’s a lot of this stuff.](https://www.google.com/search?q=keeping+up+with+the+cardassians&client=tablet-android-samsung&source=android-browser&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjGmc-i3dbTAhUIyyYKHYrCANwQ_AUICSgB&biw=1280&bih=800#imgrc=PXLnU6B9-SeCeM:)

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/29 "2017-05-04T17:12:43Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> One Patriarch dead, the other gelded. Maybe they should take a hint.

Has Caitlin been gelded yet?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/30 "2017-05-04T18:30:06Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> They’re all over the “better” news media. In recent days I’ve seen Jenner featured in a blurb for an ABC News online story, and Sports Illustrated had something on a plastic Kardashian.

You and i appear to have different definitions of “better” when it comes to the news media.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/31 "2017-05-04T21:08:07Z")

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I thought they were over but then I saw that somebody had created a whole thread about them here on the SDMB so I don’t know now.

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/32 "2017-05-05T10:08:49Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Has Caitlin been gelded yet?

I try to avoid following anything about the family but I did see a recent blurb that said Caitlin had publicly confirmed that she had undergone the surgery and had now fully transitioned. And was happy about it. So, y’know, yay for her.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/33 "2017-05-05T14:53:59Z")

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I’ll never forgive them for what they did to the Bajorans.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/34 "2017-05-05T15:38:10Z")

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[From _The Ringer_ yesterday:](https://theringer.com/keeping-up-with-the-kardashians-ratings-season-13-3aa5b249eee7) What was most interesting to me was how author Kate Knibbs, a seemingly intelligent person, described her affection for the tv show.

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> Like many viewers, scenes like this one are why I started watching Keeping Up With the Kardashians; I found the glossy infomercial to be incredibly relaxing. The premise was simple: an attractive, vapid family who loved butts and money tried to acquire fame (and more money). When they bickered, it was from a well-appointed ski chalet; when they gossiped, it was over delightfully large salads, and about 40 percent of the show is prolonged establishing shots of California scenery. The drama was low-stakes and always quickly resolved; a majority of the scenes took place in cavernous mansions or from aboard luxe Thai yachts. Everything confessional looked filtered through Snapchat’s pretty lens, every lightweight foible narrated cheerily by immaculately groomed social climbers. It was unparalleled basic-cable analgesic, a terrific show to half-watch while skimming Instagram. The family’s fortunes and faces changed dramatically over the years, but the show retained its marvelously banal tone.

This was\* interesting\* to millions of viewers.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/35 "2017-05-05T15:41:30Z")

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There was a recent thread about the Gabor sisters. This could go on for a very long time.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/36 "2017-05-05T16:36:08Z")

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> [@R.P.McMurphy](#):
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> I really don’t give a fuck how his fucking name is spelled.  
> Kanya, Can’tya, who gives a fuck about any of them. Just go away.

Kanye West is an immensely skilled musician who, for all his being kinda weird, earned being famous though hard work and talent.

The Kardashians and Jenners, damned if I get it, either.

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/37 "2017-05-05T17:03:39Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Kanye West is an immensely skilled musician who, for all his being kinda weird, earned being famous though hard work and talent.

What instruments does he play?

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> The Kardashians and Jenners, damned if I get it, either.

Ditto. Very good at generating buzz, and the women are good at wearing a lot of makeup. Ironically, I think they’d look pretty plain in preppy styles and without all the goop. _shrug_ Different strokes.

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/38 "2017-05-05T20:25:11Z")

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> [@AtomicDog](#):
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> Now I’m picturing a Transgender Gul Dukat. Shudder.

roflmao 😃

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/39 "2017-05-05T20:29:01Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Kanye West is an immensely skilled musician who, for all his being kinda weird, earned being famous though hard work and talent.

Is that the guy that married a hobbit? Is he the guy who likes putting fishsticks in his mouth?

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arent-the-fucking-jenner-kardashians-over-already/785696/40 "2017-05-05T22:37:48Z")

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You people are just jealous.

For example:

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> It’s already been well documented that Ja Rule’s luxury music festival, Fyre Fest, was a complete disaster. The festival was canceled before it really began, for reasons like there weren’t enough toilets or tents on the festival grounds. One thing it did have enough of were Instagram models and celebrities, whose paid social media endorsements turned out to be an easy way to get paid and trick rich kids into spending a lot of money for a terrible experience.
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> A recent report by Vice (and spotted by The Wrap) claims that Fyre Fest organizers paid Kendall Jenner $250,000 for a single Instagram post about the festival

> **[Fyre Fest reportedly paid Kendall Jenner $250K for a single Instagram post](https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/4/15547734/fyre-fest-kendall-jenner-instagram-sponsored-paid)**
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