# Argent Towers, a moment of your time.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 16, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227 "2010-02-16T18:23:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/201 "2010-02-16T22:50:13Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Sorry to see you go Agent foxtrot. Even if you are grooming children as sex slaves (cos they implied so :rolleyes:)

If this is a joke about the similarity between their names, it’s poorly timed. If not, then like Dio says - fucking learn how to read.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/202 "2010-02-16T22:50:46Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> I don’t think they wanted a lynching. I don’t even think they responded out of line. This is my fault and mine alone; I brought it on myself. I don’t blame them at all, actually.

Good for you–nicely said.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/203 "2010-02-16T22:53:41Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> I think I’ve permanently shot my credibility to hell, and will be voluntarily leaving the board indefinitely. I wish there was a way to remove your account, but there isn’t.

I hope you stick around. A lot of people do stupid things on this board. Very few admit it. I enjoy your posts. I think you bring more to this board than a lot of people who are calling for your blood.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/204 "2010-02-16T22:54:51Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Bollocks. AT said over and over that he fucked up, but it wasnt enough. What you people wanted was a lynching. Well done. Fuck this place.

Are you leaving then?

I don’t want to get my hopes up.

> [@Myrnalene](#):
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> If this is a joke about the similarity between their names, it’s poorly timed. If not, then like Dio says - fucking learn how to read.

Ol’ Bucky hasn’t been able to follow along with the content of the thread so far, so it wouldn’t suprise me if it was just a mistake.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/205 "2010-02-16T22:55:35Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> No one has said anything about anything posted on the boards. Fucking learn how to read.

I can reads well Sir “Always right in anything and everything”.

My opinion is simply that whether the contact was through a PM or a simple board post is irrelvant.

Argent foxtrot interacted with ANOTHER POSTER from the SDMB. We should be able to interact with ANY poster on this board without undue concern that somebody will call the feds.

Frankly I am fed up.

While I try to chill out, I will ask a question. Are there any restrictions stopping Curtis (or an equivalent) starting a thread about porn/Hogg/smoking/drinking/illegal acts?

How can we respond naturally knowing he is underage?

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/206 "2010-02-16T22:56:07Z")

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My point was that if they’d use their hammer a little more liberally people wouldn’t pull shit like this. If C had the hammer hit him early we’d have all been saved lots of skeeve and AT would have thought twice before doing this thing. No lynching required, my complaint is with the lack of moderation and what it leads to - another crap mess like this one.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/207 "2010-02-16T22:56:44Z")

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_just stumbled into this thread_

Whoa!

Haven’t finished reading this whole thing but what are people afraid is going to happen to Curtis if he reads this book?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/208 "2010-02-16T22:57:33Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> But do you honestly (and I mean this: HONESTLY) think that AT’s intent was to groom this child for the ass pissing good time that is, apparently, written about in this book? _Seriously?_ Because that has been suggested here and I am just blown away by that fact.

It doesn’t matter what you or I or any other poster here thinks as much as it matters what Mommy and Daddy LeMay think.

Many people here know AT and don’t think he’s grooming the kid. Mommy and Daddy LeMay _don’t_ know him.

If your Uncle Cecil says to your four year old daughter “Come over kid and give me a kiss and I’ll give you a piece of candy” and is kidding around, you wouldn’t bat an eye. If some stranger in a mall did it, I assume you’d be skeeved as hell (I would be). From Mommy and Daddy LeMay’s POV, the second example is a hell of a lot closer to their situation.

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**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/209 "2010-02-16T22:58:35Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Argent foxtrot interacted with ANOTHER POSTER from the SDMB.

**ARGENT.TOWERS.**

I don’t know anything about AF but he doesn’t deserve to get dragged into this shit.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/210 "2010-02-16T22:58:59Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Haven’t finished reading this whole thing but what are people afraid is going to happen to Curtis if he reads this book?

Then we’d have \*two \*people talking about it all the time…

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/211 "2010-02-16T23:00:02Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Haven’t finished reading this whole thing but what are people afraid is going to happen to Curtis if he reads this book?

That he’ll go dragging mommy and daddy out of the snake handling ceremony to tell them that the SDMB sent him sinful, sinful, oh so bad, naughty, why do I feel like I do in gym class when they make me climb the rope, dirty stuff.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/212 "2010-02-16T23:04:24Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> My opinion is simply that whether the contact was through a PM or a simple board post is irrelvant.

Ah, that is where you are wrong. An adult must be circumspect when speaking privately with a child because even the appearance of impropriety could get one thrown in jail or kneecapped with a baseball bat. “Circumspection” in most cases in which the adult is not an authorized authority figure, such as a scout leader or teacher, means “don’t ever do it.” Even authority figures mostly know enough to have a witness present because not doing that is asking for trouble. AT was begging for trouble, though he probably did not realize it. I hope he has finally gotten that clue and will understand his apologies in the spirit I hope they were offered.

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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/213 "2010-02-16T23:04:52Z")

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> [@Myrnalene](#):
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> **ARGENT.TOWERS.**
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> I don’t know anything about AF but he doesn’t deserve to get dragged into this shit.

It’s a fucking joke. There was a thread started a couple days ago that touched on their names being similar with almost exactly the same title.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/214 "2010-02-16T23:05:50Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Then we’d have \*two \*people talking about it all the time…

Win.

Shut this thread down, we’ve hit the pinnacle.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/215 "2010-02-16T23:06:41Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Ah, that is where you are wrong. An adult must be circumspect when speaking privately with a child because even the appearance of impropriety could get one thrown in jail or kneecapped with a baseball bat. “Circumspection” in most cases in which the adult is not an authorized authority figure, such as a scout leader or teacher, means “don’t ever do it.” Even authority figures mostly know enough to have a witness present because not doing that is asking for trouble. AT was begging for trouble, though he probably did not realize it. I hope he has finally gotten that clue and will understand his apologies in the spirit I hope they were offered.

Right. And at least on a message board, all of the interaction is part of the public record.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/216 "2010-02-16T23:06:53Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> _just stumbled into this thread_
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> Whoa!
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> Haven’t finished reading this whole thing but what are people afraid is going to happen to Curtis if he reads this book?

Read the thread and attempt to understand what is being said: It wasn’t the book, per se, it was an adult sending a PM recommending it to a 13-yr-old whose parents could bring down upon the SDMB a world of hurt if they found out.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/217 "2010-02-16T23:06:57Z")

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I don’t think that book could possibly turn the kid on, but the issue was never really what would happen to him if he read it anyway (though I think it’s disingenuous for anyone to suggest that a book like this could not possibly be disturbing to a 13 year old. It’s disturbing to ME, and I’m an extremely jaded and misanthropic 43 year old), but about the lack of wisdom in recommending it to him in a private message.

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/218 "2010-02-16T23:07:18Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> _just stumbled into this thread_
> 
> Whoa!
> 
> Haven’t finished reading this whole thing but what are people afraid is going to happen to Curtis if he reads this book?

That’s actually really beside the point. It wasn’t necessarily a matter of people feeling that there was any _thing_ that was going to be a direct result of his reading the book, but that it was wildly inappropriate to suggest it,\* as **AT** has himself agreed.\*

Some people have just chosen to display an amazing inability/unwillingness to read for comprehension and keep saying that everyone is crying pedophile, which actually didn’t happen.

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**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/219 "2010-02-16T23:11:51Z")

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> [@SmellMyWort](#):
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> It’s a fucking joke. There was a thread started a couple days ago that touched on their names being similar with almost exactly the same title.

Yessss? That would be why I said if it was a joke, it is poorly timed.

There sure enough are a few bitches who can’t read right around here.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/220 "2010-02-16T23:12:06Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Ah, that is where you are wrong. An adult must be circumspect when speaking privately with a child because even the appearance of impropriety could get one thrown in jail or kneecapped with a baseball bat. “Circumspection” in most cases in which the adult is not an authorized authority figure, such as a scout leader or teacher, means “don’t ever do it.” Even authority figures mostly know enough to have a witness present because not doing that is asking for trouble. AT was begging for trouble, though he probably did not realize it. I hope he has finally gotten that clue and will understand his apologies in the spirit I hope they were offered.

Exactly.

Jeebus X Christos, if I suggested _my own grandson_ read anything even CLOSE to as filthy as the material under discussion my daughter’d have my fucking head and I’d probably thank her if she had me committed on a 72 hour mental hold to make sure I’m not sliding into senile dementia. And, may I note, she’s no fainting flower–she allows him to see some fairly advanced movies (think Tarantino) and read pretty liberally, but this is beyond the pale. If I offered it to a stranger’s child as a recommendation–leaving aside the issue of encouraging said child to go against their parent’s wishes–I’d have no one but myself to blame when the cops came knocking on my door enquiring as to my intentions and motivations.

> [@SmellMyWort](#):
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> It’s a fucking joke. There was a thread started a couple days ago that touched on their names being similar with almost exactly the same title.

Yeah, and a completely blameless poster now comes up in a Google search as being the target of a thread about inappropriate contact with a minor. Ha ha, funny joke, get it? :rolleyes:

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