# Argent Towers, a moment of your time. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 16, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227 "2010-02-16T18:23:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/321 "2010-02-17T05:37:29Z")
> [@nyctea scandiaca](#): > > I have read the thread. Maybe I am mistaken in my interpretation of it. Make it, “Yes, I’m totally mistaken,” and I can accept it. Otherwise it’s obvious that you have either misread it or skipped posts that did not jibe in their first few words with your prejudices coming in, though not necessarily with your real feelings. I respect you and I ask you read all of it and attempt to understand the REAL objections, which have NOTHING to do with censoring the Board. Read it all with a clear mind and you will see that AT fucked up REAL BAD regarding his PM. Indefensibly bad. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/322 "2010-02-17T05:50:43Z")
> [@ToeJam](#): > > Isn’t that exposing a minor’s personal information without their consent? It would be **Curtis Lemay** who claimed he was 13, and it would open up AT, and the board, to problems. The board did not make the age claim, but we as members need to behave as if his claims are true. Otherwise a BFH will come down on the board and we’ll find ourselves making depositions, our board anonymity be damned. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/323 "2010-02-17T06:15:30Z")
If fake 13 year old troll Curtis Lemay gets Argent Towers banned or even causes him to stop posting here I will be very annoyed. ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/324 "2010-02-17T06:41:14Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > ETA: > If you are privy to those details, would you post them? Because without proof REASONABLE posters are required to act as if he is whom he claims. UNreasonable posters, too. > > Some people may think they understand how the Law should, ultimately, work out, but are clueless how it works from day to day. A poster here needn’t worry what the Supreme Court would ultimately say if he would be bankrupt several layers below it. I’m not sure if this was directed to me, but if so … I’m not fully sure I follow. The article that was linked was definitely about a thirteen year old school boy (I think he had just won a spelling competition or something). My only involvement was seeing that thread, and reporting it, thinking that it was probably not a good idea to have so much personal information about our youngest board member _out there_. I put quotes around the word ‘true’ because although everything has rung true to me, I don’t know him, and therefore it’s hypothetically possible that some middle aged man has assumed the identity of a real young teenager and continued posting using that identity. Gut feeling makes me think he is a real, precocious 13 year old Christian Asian-American boy who likes debating with adults. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/325 "2010-02-17T06:57:07Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > If fake 13 year old troll Curtis Lemay gets Argent Towers banned or even causes him to stop posting here I will be very annoyed. Um, what? No seriously, you think Curtis is to blame for all this and not AT’s well intentioned but ill-thought out actions? Really? Curious indeed. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/326 "2010-02-17T06:57:12Z")
> [@Carmady](#): > > I saw worse than Hogg when I was 13. > [@Carmady](#): > > I haven’t read nor would I ever read Hogg. I don’t even like violent horror movies (or the song I referenced). Am I the only one who notes just a wee bit of inconsistency between these two posts? While you are resolving the seeming contradiction for us, **Carmady** , perhaps you can answer **MsWhatsit’s** question regarding what you encountered at 13 that was worse? ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/327 "2010-02-17T07:11:14Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > If fake 13 year old troll Curtis Lemay gets Argent Towers banned or even causes him to stop posting here I will be very annoyed. This doesn’t make any sense to me. I believe a lot like **Una Persson** does in regards to AT, but I’m missing this whole **Curtis Lemay** is a genius thing. He is very good at sounding smart without saying a whole lot. I don’t mean that as a put down, just that he sounds like a clever 13 y.o. to me. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/328 "2010-02-17T08:03:35Z")
**Curtis** rings authentic to me too. His vocabulary and rhetoric is only superficially “adult.” his thinking underneath it is still rather naive and simplistic. His words, I suspect, are largely imitative of things he reads and hears elsewhere. He speaks largely in platitudes and slogans, which admittedly, is not unusual for political demagogues of any age, but I don’t sense the anger, hostility, bitterness or resentment that normally can be seen in those types. I sense well-intentioned naivete. I think have a pretty good radar for phonies and trolls, and I’m not getting that from Curtis. If it’s an adult pretending to be a kid, he’s a genius writer to be able to keep that core of innocence going under the veneer of sophisticated language. I know this kind of know-it-all kid who argues with adults in their own language very well. It was me (minus the religion). Give him another 10-15 years, and he’ll probably be a godless, liberal skeptic like the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/329 "2010-02-17T11:25:52Z")
Assuming that Curtis is thirteen, we have to keep in mind that it will be another two or three years before his brain in fully formed. He may have very good thinking skills, but that doesn’t say anything about his emotional, social, and sexual maturity. He does not process information the way that we do. **Marley** , I think you missed this one big time. Listen to your fellow board members. Did you read all the way through? **Argent Towers** , everyone makes a bad call now and then. I don’t think he’s thirteen anyway. But he is immature. You, on the other hand, are an old friend here. We know you. Now go to your room! ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/330 "2010-02-17T12:05:57Z")
Just want to come in and point out that hyperlexia is a symptom of Asperger’s. Even if he doesn’t have it, it could explain why somebody he knows thinks he does. ---
**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/331 "2010-02-17T12:41:29Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > **Curtis** is a kid who thinks masturbation is naught, and uses phrases like “burning with lust,” without irony. He’s probably never seen porn in his life… If he’s 13 and can access the Internet, he’s seen porn. In fact, it’s probably the first thing he searched for. Trust me on this. In any case, I think it’s official – Feb 2010 will go down in SDMB history as “Pedo Month.” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/332 "2010-02-17T12:57:08Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > It would be **Curtis Lemay** who claimed he was 13, and it would open up AT, and the board, to problems. The board did not make the age claim, but we as members need to behave as if his claims are true. Otherwise a BFH will come down on the board and we’ll find ourselves making depositions, our board anonymity be damned. Oh, just stop. If you’re that afraid, why are you still posting here? The fun with stoning AT is over, but you just haven’t had enough. Trying to prolong the fun by starting a panic that we’re all going to pound-me-in-the-ass prison? Why don’t you just STFU before you embarass yourself further? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/333 "2010-02-17T13:14:28Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > Argent, take a couple days off as a break, don’t post any further no matter how much you want to, and just come back and start over. Quoted for truth. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/334 "2010-02-17T15:43:05Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > It means you have no business trying to lecture anybody about _parenting_. This is just bullshit. Being a parent is nothing unique, and doesn’t confer any special skills or magical experience. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/335 "2010-02-17T15:51:42Z")
The experience isn’t magical, but it is experience. I’d rather not be lectured on how to do anything, be it parenting, my job, or a hobby, by someone with no experience doing it. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/336 "2010-02-17T16:02:41Z")
> [@Carmady](#): > > Yeah, how dare I reference a Nick Cave album which was implicitly recommended to kids Recommended by who? Not the publishers, or why would there be that [label](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Murderballads.jpg)on the cover? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/337 "2010-02-17T16:06:36Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > The experience isn’t magical, but it is experience. I’d rather not be lectured on how to do anything, be it parenting, my job, or a hobby, by someone with no experience doing it. Parenting’s different from a job or hobby because we all \*do \*have some experience of it, from one side or the other. That entitles anyone to an opinion, I think. Not necessarily a valuable opinion, but then, there are lots of parents who aren’t very good at it, either. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/338 "2010-02-17T16:09:40Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > This is just bullshit. Being a parent is nothing unique, and doesn’t confer any special skills or magical experience. Skills, no, experience, yes. It is a particular experience that can’t be understood without doing it. Few things are more annoying than being lectured by non-parents on how to parent. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/339 "2010-02-17T16:10:18Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Parenting’s different from a job or hobby because we all \*do \*have some experience of it, from one side or the other. That entitles anyone to an opinion, I think. Not necessarily a valuable opinion, but then, there are lots of parents who aren’t very good at it, either. Yeah, but in this case, the “other side” is very significantly different, in terms of experience afforded, than the “one side.” ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227/340 "2010-02-17T16:12:04Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Parenting’s different from a job or hobby because we all \*do \*have some experience of it, from one side or the other. There is only one side. Saying you can have experience of parenting from having been parented is like saying a man can have experience of being a woman by being married to one. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-a-moment-of-your-time/529227.md?page=18)