# Argent Towers, you suck

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 1, 2009, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563 "2009-12-01T06:06:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/41 "2009-12-01T20:06:56Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> There’s a film version of it now?!

my bad, novel

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/42 "2009-12-01T20:23:49Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> That nancy-boy is the future William III, King of England. (Another fascinating factoid that **miss elizabeth** will miss out on.)

Not anymore! 😃

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/43 "2009-12-01T20:27:51Z")

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So…if someone’s on your ignore list, you still see everything of theirs that others have quoted?

Doesn’t that kind of defeat the purpose of it, especially if what they’ve said is something controversial that generated lots of replies?

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/44 "2009-12-01T20:29:52Z")

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Hey, **miss elizabeth** , that nancy-boy is the future William III, King of England. You almost missed out on that. 🙂

ETA: Ah, dammit, **silenus,** you bastard.

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**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/45 "2009-12-01T20:32:20Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> Another fascinating factoid that **miss elizabeth** will miss out on

similar, but not the same as facts

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/46 "2009-12-01T20:33:12Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> ETA: Ah, dammit, **silenus,** you bastard.

And now my day is complete. 😃

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/47 "2009-12-01T20:43:55Z")

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Argent Towers is like a hemorrhagic virus making ignorance contagious and deadly.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/48 "2009-12-01T21:02:54Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Not anymore! 😃

This actually proves my point. Anything remotely interesting he posts is quoted so I don’t miss much.

Hmm. Actually I think I will try blocking Diogenes. I don’t think I gave it enough of a chance before. 🙂

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/49 "2009-12-01T21:21:13Z")

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But does **Dio** know anything about William III? Huh? I thought not.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/50 "2009-12-01T21:34:30Z")

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William III once shot a man in Reno just to see him die.

Willaim III knows only two things about ducks, both of them wrong.

There’s no chin beneath Willim III’s goatee, there is only another rapier.

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/51 "2009-12-01T21:40:56Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> But does **Dio** know anything about William III? Huh? I thought not.

Whatever **Dio** knows about William III is _all_ there is to know about him. **Dio** knows all and apparently his posts are his cites.

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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/52 "2009-12-01T22:01:38Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> **dnooman** , a word of advice:
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> This is the twenty first century. We may not have jet packs or missions to far reaching planets, but what we do have is social tolerance. We are an enlightened world, where two people can find love regardless of their backgrounds. We tolerate gay couples, interracial couples, and other countless couples who fear that that their love will not be condoned by society. But what I am saying to you is that it will.
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> So go ahead. Ask him out, already.

We..um… “_tolerate_ gay couples, interracial couples…”  
Tolerate.  
Damn!  
Perhaps you didn’t mean this the way I read it, but it sure sounds ugly as hell to me.  
Tolerate.

Shit.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/53 "2009-12-01T22:25:49Z")

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I think he was joking around a bit.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/54 "2009-12-01T22:27:45Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> Except that AD acted like a complete tool in the cop shooting threads. This pitting is well deserved, even if his fan club disagrees.

It’s worth mentioning that Argent kinda turned out to be right about some of the stuff people are giving him shit for in that thread, FWIW…

Frankly, I’m surprised by this pitting.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/55 "2009-12-01T23:04:07Z")

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Well, then, mention it. What was he right about? No need to be coy, bring.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/56 "2009-12-01T23:12:23Z")

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I don’t really even think I was “right” about anything. I was being kind of an ass, and I admit it. No, I do not think that “death to cops” is a mainstream sentiment among liberal-leaning people, in any way; only that I did encounter some, in college, who were pretty vile about it. But, as I said before, I think it was mostly because their only experience with cops was very negative - i.e. being busted for drug bullshit. If college students didn’t need to worry about getting in trouble over an eighth of an ounce of weed, they wouldn’t hate the police so much.

**whole bean** ’s comment about me - “He also often appears to come at things as if his frame of reference is the default universal experience” - is correct. It’s a flaw of mine, and I should try to work on it.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/57 "2009-12-01T23:28:02Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> It’s worth mentioning that Argent kinda turned out to be right about some of the stuff people are giving him shit for in that thread, FWIW…
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> Frankly, I’m surprised by this pitting.

And he also said “I was being kind of an ass, and I admit it.”. Which means the pitting was entirely reasonable.

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**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/58 "2009-12-01T23:30:02Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> **whole bean** ’s comment about me - “He also often appears to come at things as if his frame of reference is the default universal experience” - is correct. It’s a flaw of mine, and I should try to work on it.

The thing is, it’s natural and akin to inductive reasoning.

The longer you live, the more times your experience proves not to be the default, the less you rely on it as such - assuming you’re open to the prospect. Anyway, you’re an interesting guy. It wasn’t meant to be an attack.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/59 "2009-12-01T23:43:31Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> I don’t really even think I was “right” about anything. I was being kind of an ass, and I admit it. No, I do not think that “death to cops” is a mainstream sentiment among liberal-leaning people, in any way; only that I did encounter some, in college, who were pretty vile about it. But, as I said before, I think it was mostly because their only experience with cops was very negative - i.e. being busted for drug bullshit. If college students didn’t need to worry about getting in trouble over an eighth of an ounce of weed, they wouldn’t hate the police so much.

I can see the truth in that. I also wonder when you went to college. I understand anti-police sentiment used to be particularly strong in the 60s.

I appreciate your very reasonable response here.

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**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/60 "2009-12-01T23:45:15Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> I can see the truth in that. I also wonder when you went to college. I understand anti-police sentiment used to be particularly strong in the 60s.
> 
> I appreciate your very reasonable response here.

pretty sure he graduated within the last couple of years

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