# Argent Towers, you suck **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 1, 2009, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563 "2009-12-01T06:06:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/61 "2009-12-01T23:52:50Z")
Last May, with a B.A. in history. Indiana University. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/62 "2009-12-02T00:01:48Z")
I am posing here to agree that Argent Towers does, in fact, suck. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/63 "2009-12-02T00:21:19Z")
> [@jali](#): > > We..um… “_tolerate_ gay couples, interracial couples…” > Tolerate. > Damn! > Perhaps you didn’t mean this the way I read it, but it sure sounds ugly as hell to me. > Tolerate. > > Shit. No offense intended. I was tired and trying to make a bad joke. Just substitute “accept” for “tolerate”. Hell, put “embrace” there if you want to, I wasn’t trying to make a political statement. > [@astro](#): > > A shame really. We have come to expect great things of you. From _me_? Where are you putting the bar here? Special Olympics pole vault level? ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/64 "2009-12-02T00:25:42Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > From _me_? Where are you putting the bar here? Special Olympics pole vault level? This joke might offend as well. Gotta wrap this stuff up in kitten mittens, folks. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/65 "2009-12-02T00:31:25Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Well, then, mention it. What was he right about? No need to be coy, bring. Well, from what I’ve read there are seven or eight people that the police would like to “help with their enquiries” regarding providing assistance to the shooter. Now, I don’t know the circumstances or the nature of the assistance provided, but if one of your friends came to you and said he’d just shot and killed four police officers for no immediately apparent reason, you’re unlikely to offer him quantities of cash and a phone and offer to take him somewhere quiet to lie low for a while, right? At least three people appear to have done exactly that for this guy (based on the news stories I have read so far), which I think does lend some weight to **Argent** ’s assertion that not everyone thinks that cop killing is a heinous act which must not be allowed to go unpunished. I’m not saying the people who helped this guy condone or agree with what he did, of course, but the high number of people the police would like to talk to does either suggest a very large, close-knit family, or some misguided friends. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/66 "2009-12-02T01:12:02Z")
Why has this thread gotten all serious? Hogg! 17th-century armor! Zager & Evans! ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/67 "2009-12-02T01:12:25Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > This joke might offend as well. Gotta wrap this stuff up in kitten mittens, folks. It should be noted that **astro** was criticizing the quality of the joke, not it’s offensiveness. He was just saying I’ve posted funnier and this one fell flat. I agree. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/68 "2009-12-02T01:29:57Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Why has this thread gotten all serious? Hogg! 17th-century armor! Zager & Evans! It totally doesn’t work like that. If you’re going to throw Hogg out there, you absolutely have to back it up with some quote or observation featuring testicle sniffing or somesuch. ---
**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/69 "2009-12-02T02:08:43Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > I don’t really even think I was “right” about anything. I was being kind of an ass, and I admit it. No, I do not think that “death to cops” is a mainstream sentiment among liberal-leaning people, in any way; only that I did encounter some, in college, who were pretty vile about it. But, as I said before, I think it was mostly because their only experience with cops was very negative - i.e. being busted for drug bullshit. If college students didn’t need to worry about getting in trouble over an eighth of an ounce of weed, they wouldn’t hate the police so much. > > **whole bean** ’s comment about me - “He also often appears to come at things as if his frame of reference is the default universal experience” - is correct. It’s a flaw of mine, and I should try to work on it. Dude, this isn’t going to be any fun if you’re going to be all calm, cool and collected about this and keep making reasonable and logical posts. This is your pitting party. Go wild. _Hogg_ wild even. ---
**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/70 "2009-12-02T02:56:16Z")
> [@Rack-a-Bones](#): > > Dude, this isn’t going to be any fun if you’re going to be all calm, cool and collected about this and keep making reasonable and logical posts. > > This is your pitting party. **Go wild. _Hogg_ wild even**. MAJOR. LEAGUE. GROANER. But funny, though ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/71 "2009-12-02T03:16:52Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > I will share my opinions in threads about controversial stuff that have been started by other people, and sometimes those opinions will be quite strong - though if in hindsight I feel that I have posted something too emotional or abrasive, I will generally admit it (as I did in the thread about the murdered policemen.) I also steer clear of personal attacks on other posters, because I think it’s pointless. I think every single fucking poster on this board needs to read the above again. That should be the posting style for _everybody_. **Argent** , I frequently disagree with you, but your posts in this thread are an absolute clinic on how to defend yourself. Reasonable, considered, logical, and they also make a point. I, for one, am pretty fucking impressed. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/72 "2009-12-02T03:25:23Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > It should be noted that **astro** was criticizing the quality of the joke, not it’s offensiveness. He was just saying I’ve posted funnier and this one fell flat. I agree. Yes, yes, I didn’t mean **astro**. I meant \*\*jali \*\*getting offended by your statement about tolerating queer and interracial couples. And now I’m offended by your inability to keep up. Pit thread forthcoming! ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/73 "2009-12-02T03:29:49Z")
Well, I’m offended by your use of “kitten mittens”. Don’t you know that imposing human clothing on our animal friends is abuse? I bet you even declawed the cat just so it wouldn’t rip your precious mittens. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/74 "2009-12-02T03:32:39Z")
Oh, don’t be silly! Its mittens made from kittens! And just in time for Christmas, too! ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/75 "2009-12-02T03:45:49Z")
I have a pair of bunny slippers, made from real Playboy models shaved pubic hair. They’re a little scratchy. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/76 "2009-12-02T03:51:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Oh, don’t be silly! Its mittens made from kittens! And just in time for Christmas, too! That just makes it worse. **MeanOldLady** is binding the mutilated paws of poor innocent kittens with the skins of their fallen brethren. You know who else wore clothing made out of the skin of their own species? ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/77 "2009-12-02T04:39:02Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > That just makes it worse. **MeanOldLady** is binding the mutilated paws of poor innocent kittens with the skins of their fallen brethren. You know who else wore clothing made out of the skin of their own species? Um…Fred Flintstone? ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/78 "2009-12-02T04:58:52Z")
Now that’s just stupid. Everybody knows that Fred Flinstone wasn’t a Nazi. He was an American. Go read a history book. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/79 "2009-12-02T12:22:23Z")
I disagree with a lot of his views and the way he expresses them, and I find his macho style abrasive sometimes, but pitting him seems over the top. If I created a pit thread for every poster that I don’t like (not saying I don’t like **AT** , but I’m not in _love_ with him), I’d never get any work done! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563/80 "2009-12-02T14:50:44Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I have a pair of bunny slippers, made from real Playboy models shaved pubic hair. They’re a little scratchy. Hush. Playboy models are naturally hairless. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argent-towers-you-suck/519563.md?page=5)