# Argh!  They killed Gwen!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argh-they-killed-gwen/246747>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 24, 2004, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argh-they-killed-gwen/246747 "2004-05-24T04:39:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Gamaliel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gamaliel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gamaliel)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2004, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argh-they-killed-gwen/246747/21 "2004-05-24T21:35:48Z")

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Don’t worry, somebody cloned her.

But then I think the clone died too. Oh well.

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**Author:** ![dangergene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@dangergene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangergene)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argh-they-killed-gwen/246747/22 "2004-05-25T01:08:49Z")

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> [@Rufus Xavier](#):
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> I have to confess - I was the only idiot of all the people I knew who, between the ESB and RotJ, was convinced it was an evil ploy and not the simple truth. I mean, how could Vader - I mean, Ben _did_ say - and what about - well, never mind. Hey, I was 12. Does that exonerate me?

heh heh, I was the same. I had a huge ranting argument with my best friend over Vader being a cunning, EVIL manipulator, and how it would be just the thing to say to screw with Luke’s head. My friend wouldn’t have a bar of it, ‘nah, Vader said so, didn’t he? Why would he lie?’.

Even knowing I was wrong I still get shirty thinking how flawed my friend’s reasoning was.

/hijack

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argh-they-killed-gwen/246747/23 "2004-05-25T03:07:33Z")

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…Have you seen… the footage… of Buckwheat being shot?

No?

Then let’s have a look…

😃

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argh-they-killed-gwen/246747/24 "2004-05-25T12:30:14Z")

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The Day Gwen Stacy Died. Amazing Spider-Man issue #121. I used to own that issue. I sold it when I was 18 along with my Giant-Size X-Men issue #1. What a tool.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/argh-they-killed-gwen/246747/25 "2004-05-25T18:41:23Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> They couldn’t put Gwen Stacy in _Spider-Man 2_; they already ripped off her death scene\* with Mary Jane Watson in the first movie.
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> \*Granted, she lived in the movie, but the setup is otherwise identical.

Not true. Gwen was important to the dynamic of the series. For the better part of five years, loser Peter Parker suddenly had two gorgeous girlfriends, the “good girl” (Cop’s daughter and perpetual virgin) Gwen, and the “bad girl” (slightly slutty go-go dancer) MJ. Even after Gwen died, he kept meeting other “good girl” archetypes, but it says plenty about the character that he always went back to Mary Jane. It would absolutely rule if, say, Mandy Moore signed on to the movies as Gwen. The catfights with Kirsten Dunst alone…!

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