# Ariel Castro found hanged in cell. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 4, 2013, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971 "2013-09-04T05:17:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/61 "2013-09-04T19:47:53Z")
At least he managed to save us federal taxpayers some money… Don’t care what the religion - I’m quite sure there’s special place in hell reserved for him. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/62 "2013-09-04T19:58:01Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Keep beating that straw man until he’s dead, pal. I’m sure it’ll die eventually. > > ETA: What conclusion should I draw from the fact that you apparently think so little of other people that you would ascribe things to them that are not true in an effort to excoriate them and make yourself look good? Why do you need to continue to argue the morality of attitudes that you falsely, publicly attribute to others? You claimed to “get a boner” from the idea of Ariel Castro being raped and tortured. I’m not sure how that rape and torture was supposed to happen without a rapist and a torturer, or how getting a boner from it is not a positive reaction to it. This might require a different thread, though. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/63 "2013-09-04T20:28:55Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Like, have the State Governor appoint a Rapist-in-chief for the prison system who goes around sodomizing the really really bad guys in prison? > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > it gives me (and a few others, I bet) a boner to imagine this guy getting raped and trotted in prison. I guess someone just volunteered. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/64 "2013-09-04T20:30:00Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Yep. First kill yourself, and only then turn the gun on other people. Yah! 🙂 I think this every time I hear some horrible case of someone killing their kids and then themselves, or shooting up a school and then killing themselves. Why didn’t you just shoot yourself first and spare all of those innocent lives? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/65 "2013-09-04T20:33:49Z")
I’ll admit it: I did my Happy Dance when I heard the news. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/66 "2013-09-04T21:02:37Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > You claimed to “get a boner” from the idea of Ariel Castro being raped and tortured. I’m not sure how that rape and torture was supposed to happen without a rapist and a torturer, or how getting a boner from it is not a positive reaction to it. > > This might require a different thread, though. Perhaps you could point out where I said I wanted it to actually happen? ETA: And yeah, this derail is stupid… the thread is about a convicted kidnapper and rapist taking his own life. I expressed happiness at the idea, but sorrow that justice, IMO, is not served. The really terrible thing is that Ariel Castro was pretty much always in control, even in effecting his own death. The justice would have been for his control over his own situation, even over his own life, to have been taken away. Now that will never happen, and I think its a shame. If you want to try and call me names or debate out justice system, start a new thread, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/67 "2013-09-04T21:15:39Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Yah! 🙂 > …Why didn’t you just shoot yourself first and spare all of those innocent lives? ☹ Because then you don’t make the national news and get your 5 minutes of “fame”. Sad but true. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/68 "2013-09-04T21:33:25Z")
Rehabilitation was clearly not an option and he could never have done enough to make amends. This is the best result. I only wish he’d have done it sooner. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/69 "2013-09-04T21:35:14Z")
This is a general note to all by way of the direction this topic seems to be heading. The Pit is below this forum. There’s even a Castro thread in there already, so feel free to take all Pit-like comments to that thread instead [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=698230). Or, feel free to make a new topic there with any beefs regarding anything someone else here. Just take it out of this topic now. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/70 "2013-09-04T23:10:00Z")
At least now the victims have closure. They know one horrible chapter in their lives is closed. There won’t be any court appeals or jail interviews featuring Castro. That has to be a relief for them. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/71 "2013-09-04T23:15:14Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > "Any man’s death diminishes me, > Because I am involved in mankind, > And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; > It tolls for thee. " > –John Donne “To hell with them fellas. Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.” – Josey Wales ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/72 "2013-09-04T23:33:45Z")
Good riddance. But since he was on suicide watch, I wonder how long it will be before the conspiracy theorists start publishing about how he was “assisted” in his suicide by the prison staff. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/73 "2013-09-05T00:25:20Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Like, have the State Governor appoint a Rapist-in-chief for the prison system who goes around sodomizing the really really bad guys in prison? How much does this position pay? Is there a certification you need to get? “Only saintly motorcyclists need apply.” ---
**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/74 "2013-09-05T00:49:57Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Good riddance. > > But since he was on suicide watch, I wonder how long it will be before the conspiracy theorists start publishing about how he was “assisted” in his suicide by the prison staff. He wasn’t on suicide watch, but I don’t think that’ll stop any theorising. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/75 "2013-09-05T03:29:05Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I like to imagine that while “rushing” him to the hospital, they stopped for milkshakes. > [@cochrane](#): > > Only fitting. The three girls escaped when Castro went out for some McDonald’s. And if they did, maybe MacDonalds’ could use _that_ in their publicity like they did for the rescuer when he kept mentioning he’d come from and been eating MacDonald’s. Didn’t they give him some free burgers or such? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/76 "2013-09-05T03:42:02Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > I’ll admit it: I did my Happy Dance when I heard the news. Yeah, my first reaction was the opposite: that he cheated justice. Suicide is the easy way out. Once again, he got his way. Oh well, I suppose that’s one more prison space opening up, or something. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/77 "2013-09-05T06:34:12Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > As an Ohio taxpayer, I think he made the right call and fully support him in his decision. Exactly my reaction. The bastard saved us a lot of money. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/78 "2013-09-05T15:17:06Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > "Any man’s death diminishes me, > Because I am involved in mankind, > And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; > It tolls for thee. " > –John Donne The world is vast and it seems to me to contain many diverse individuals. Some have natural tendencies to be as their default behavior loving and kind toward anyone else they might meet. Others, in turn, are naturally hateful and mean. The large majority are somewhere between these two poles and look to the absolutes as guideposts and in some cases goals. The death of this hateful and mean individual reduces the available number of foci for the psyches of those who might find such behavior justified in their lives. What happens to an incarcerated person is almost universally ignored by the populace at large. Among those of us who live here blessedly outside those locked doors, bars, walls and razor-wire, it is only the relatives of the incarcerated’s victims (who are obviously victims themselves), and the deluded fans of that hateful and mean individual who evince any measure of care about that individual’s well-being or lack thereof. But, as Donne said (and I paraphrase) we are all connected each to the other and the diminishment of you affects me as well. It makes me wonder, occasionally. ---
**Author:** ![Becky2844](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Becky2844](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky2844)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/79 "2013-09-05T17:25:48Z")
Re how the three women may feel: a death doesn’t automatically bring closure. It’s frustrating and maddening because now nothing can be changed. _if that makes any sense_ And in writing this I see that the desire is for the perpetrator to change, which would probably never happen anyway, so the change has to come from within. I still wouldn’t call it closure though, maybe more of a continuance of a journey. IMHO ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971/80 "2013-09-05T17:31:09Z")
ISTM this individual craved control. You can see it in his crimes, his courtroom behavior and statements, and his final act. The best punishment for him was taking away control, but evidently, he still had enough of it to off himself. Pity that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ariel-castro-found-hanged-in-cell/667971.md?page=5)