# Aristotle Onasis 'FLU?' Jackie - JFK, Jr **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 5, 2006, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aristotle-onasis-flu-jackie-jfk-jr/343132 "2006-02-05T19:48:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mother-Margaret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@Mother-Margaret](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mother-Margaret)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2006, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aristotle-onasis-flu-jackie-jfk-jr/343132/1 "2006-02-05T19:48:12Z")
[Aristotle Onasis - came down with a ‘flu?’](http://www.valdezlink.com/pages/onasisflu.htm#did) Did Aristotle Onasis have '[the pattern’ of 2-butoxyethanol harm](http://www.valdezlink.com/pages/cfsclues.htm)? He had surgery for gall bladder not long before he died. Later Jackie Kennedy Onasis dies of NHL cancer - at age 61 John Kennedy, Jr may still be alive had his mother lived longer. He was not willing to fly a plane over her objections - as it concerned her so I never would have thought of this, except that I had seen a documentary on Jackie Kennedy Onasis and they said she died of cancer. I’m curious, so I wanted to know ‘what kind of cancer’ and looked it up. (Non Hodgkin’s Lymphoma is the kind that I would suspect 2-butoxyethanol exposure could cause) Then I noticed that Aristotle Onasis had died some years before about 2 weeks after gall bladder surgery. That is also something you can find in the early years after someone has had a lot of exposure to 2-butoxyethanol. Part of its pattern, so to speak. So then I wondered, did he have a notable flu prior to that? He did. They thought it was the bird flu or something and he ended up with a diagnosis - at least partially of _myasthenia gravis_. [That too fits ‘the pattern’](http://www.valdezlink.com/pages/questionnaire.htm) I’d like to know a couple more things; but most expecially, I’d like to know exactly what he has doing or where he was or who had come around … when the ‘flu’ started up. AND whether or not they found blood in his urine. I wonder whether or not the Foundations he started would be interested in 2-butoxyethanol ‘recognizing’ research? I have some ideas. I do recognize the pattern of this chemical’s harm. [Not unlike a NASA Controller recognized a problem in his field](http://www.valdezlink.com/pages/mandy.htm#pattern) ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2006, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aristotle-onasis-flu-jackie-jfk-jr/343132/2 "2006-02-05T20:49:49Z")
You know, something about this is ringing familiar. (Checks around) [Ahh, here we go . . .](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=356292) ---
**Author:** ![Polerius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Polerius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polerius)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2006, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aristotle-onasis-flu-jackie-jfk-jr/343132/3 "2006-02-05T21:01:44Z")
> [@Linty Fresh](#): > > You know, something about this is ringing familiar. > (Checks around) > > [Ahh, here we go . . .](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=356292) What I want to know is how this all relates to the [timecube](http://www.timecube.com) ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2006, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aristotle-onasis-flu-jackie-jfk-jr/343132/4 "2006-02-05T21:04:57Z")
And the Great Debate here is? ---
**Author:** ![AFAIKnow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@AFAIKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AFAIKnow)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2006, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aristotle-onasis-flu-jackie-jfk-jr/343132/5 "2006-02-05T21:08:45Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > And the Great Debate here is? We could always go with that. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2006, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aristotle-onasis-flu-jackie-jfk-jr/343132/6 "2006-02-05T21:54:58Z")
Mother-Margaret, you might want to edit your website. The name was spelled Onassis (okay, actually it was spelled Ωνάσης but it’s generally transcribed with a double s). ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2006, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aristotle-onasis-flu-jackie-jfk-jr/343132/7 "2006-02-05T22:50:48Z")
Did 2-butoxyethanol kick your dog? Why do you persist in linking it to everything from flu-symptoms, to CFIDS, to cancer without any evidence that sufferers were even exposed, nevermind that the chemical is capable of causing these diseases? If you were able to detect such problems, then [why haven’t federal authorities recognized its dire effects?](http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts118.html#bookmark05) You have no evidence. You have no data. You have only the grossest, most superficial kind of speculation. You think you’ve found some scientific insight, and are willing to twist the facts until they fit your hypothesis. That isn’t science, it’s egotism. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2006, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aristotle-onasis-flu-jackie-jfk-jr/343132/8 "2006-02-05T23:52:17Z")
> [@Polerius](#): > > What I want to know is how this all relates to the [timecube](http://www.timecube.com) Thanks, now my brain hurts. I guess your pockets are flush with crazy, and you’re feeling generous today. 😉