# Arizona is out of control

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 24, 2010, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171 "2010-04-24T01:17:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/221 "2010-04-26T19:01:55Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> I’m dying to know how you’re going to spin this when it comes out that this law has been grossly abused. I can’t wait to see your bigoted little ego try to protect itself from this one.

I find it very cute that you have so much invested in me being a bigot. Telling.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/222 "2010-04-26T19:04:48Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> What’s all this about complaining about something that hasn’t happened yet, then? 😉

i’m complaining about their stating that they _will do_ these things. You’re complaining about something that no one is claiming they will do. If you’d like to point to an AZ law enforcement official saying that he will harass people, then we have an analogy. Otherwise, no, we don’t.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/223 "2010-04-26T19:07:02Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> That doesn’t even make sense. The very real cause for concern here is that the cops are going to be required (that’s the word in their law last I saw) to grab “Unamerican looking” people and ask to see their papers.
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> So…more brown people are going to get stopped. And your response is that people are going to “manufacture scenarios” where brown people will get stopped more? How are they going to manufacture that? Aryan kids going tanning just to sucker in the poor coppers?
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> The law is going to do exactly what it was intended to do - and people who can see more than thirty seconds into the future are protesting that.
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> -Joe

I don’t think that’s what the laws says. But I’d steer you to the debate in GD where the language and legality of what can/must be done is being parsed.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/224 "2010-04-26T19:07:14Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I find it very cute that you have so much invested in me being a bigot. Telling.

Telling of the fact that you have so much invested in proving you are one. Over and over and over . . .

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/225 "2010-04-26T19:19:52Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Telling of the fact that you have so much invested in proving you are one. Over and over and over . . .

So, not only do you have this fantasy of me being a bigot, but you play it over and over in your head? Noted. ::shrugs:: Sweet dreams, snookims.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/226 "2010-04-26T19:32:04Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> So, not only do you have this fantasy of me being a bigot, but you play it over and over in your head? Noted. ::shrugs:: Sweet dreams, snookims.

Ummmmm . . . no, dumbshit. I’ve just read enough threads with you and your twisted, bigoted logic in them. We’ve been posting on the same board for almost 6 years you stupid asshat.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/227 "2010-04-26T19:41:15Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> So, not only do you have this fantasy of me being a bigot, but you play it over and over in your head? Noted. ::shrugs:: Sweet dreams, snookims.

No, you actually are a bigot. You think gays shouldn’t be allowed to marry because it pisses you off.

I have to assume that’s the case, because you’ve never really stated why else they shouldn’t be able to.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/228 "2010-04-26T19:44:08Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Ummmmm . . . no, dumbshit. I’ve just read enough threads with you and your twisted, bigoted logic in them. We’ve been posting on the same board for almost 6 years you stupid asshat.

Therefore it’s a safe bet that I already know your a whiny dolt who likes to cry “RACISM”. Right? Right. So, what purpose does it serve to post more of the same? To show that you’re whinier? Doltier? In even more need of a good “WHHAAAAAAAA”?

And let me suggest you look up “ad hominem”. And no, it’s not an advertisement for a new brand of grits.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/229 "2010-04-26T19:46:25Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> No, you actually are a bigot. You think gays shouldn’t be allowed to marry because it pisses you off.
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> I have to assume that’s the case, because you’ve never really stated why else they shouldn’t be able to.

Wrong. As usual. On both points. Just because you’re to lazy to Search doesn’t make it my problem, **ChuckleHead**.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/230 "2010-04-26T19:46:55Z")

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Exactly what a bigot always says.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/231 "2010-04-26T19:47:42Z")

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magellan, there’s nothing you can say now to convince people you’re not a bigot, because everything you’ve ever said has convinced them that you are. Live with it.

Also, I don’t think it’s necessary to bold pet names and other terms of endearment.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/232 "2010-04-26T19:52:53Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> magellan, there’s nothing you can say now to convince people you’re not a bigot, because everything you’ve ever said has convinced them that you are. Live with it.
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> Also, I don’t think it’s necessary to bold pet names and other terms of endearment.

If you insert a “some” between “convince” and “people”, no doubt you are right. Is that what you meant to say, **Honeybunch**?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/233 "2010-04-26T19:53:52Z")

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Has anyone at all become convinced you _aren’t?_

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/234 "2010-04-26T19:54:33Z")

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Show of hands… anyone think magellan isn’t a bigot? And, frankly, kinda homely?

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/235 "2010-04-26T19:57:41Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Show of hands… anyone think magellan isn’t a bigot? And, frankly, kinda homely?

I’m flattered, truly. But could you open another Pit thread so, this one isn’t hijacked. Unless that is your goal, of course.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/236 "2010-04-26T20:00:56Z")

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No, I’m done. Unless of course anyone raises their hand.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/237 "2010-04-26T20:02:33Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Show of hands… anyone think magellan isn’t a bigot? And, frankly, kinda homely?

Can we throw “his mother dresses him” into the mix?

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/238 "2010-04-26T20:03:08Z")

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Funny.

His mother dresses him _ **funny** _.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/239 "2010-04-26T20:07:47Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Can we throw “his mother dresses him” into the mix?

My mother dresses me, but yours _un_dresses me. _ba-da-bing!_

Is it recess yet?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arizona-is-out-of-control/537171/240 "2010-04-26T20:32:00Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> My mother dresses me, but yours _un_dresses me. _ba-da-bing!_
> 
> Is it recess yet?

As a minor note, that would’ve been funny if you hadn’t overplayed it.

Example:

“My mom dresses me, yours undresses me - it’s all a rich tapestry.”

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