Arizona Voter ID law upheld by Ninth Cir

Wikipedia is a really shitty source. Do you have better one?

No, Czarcasm, the diversion into personal habits began with *your *dismissal of elucidator’s motives and grip on reality. If your own are no better, or even not as good, as it seems you now acknowledge, then your discussion was not only a diversion from the topic but inappropriate in *any *topic.

Now cut the shit.

Oh, now, no big deal, he was just a mite testy. Its annoying to be on the losing end of an argument with a smart-ass. Well, I assume so, not having any actual experience…

By the way, that wiki on Bob Dornan…

An “embarrassment” to the Republican Party? Yeah, and Krakatoa was loud.

But yeah, I echo the sentiment for more citation. Because this is the first I’d heard. Not that surprised that it maybe happened, surprised that it hasn’t been shoved into my face at every opportunity. I mean, its got everything! Democrat skulduggery, illegal aliens, voter fraud, electrolytes…

I do. It’s called a Colorado ID. Before that had one called an Arizona ID. OK, technically it’s a lawful presence identification.

So you have proof of citizenship that you carry, except technically it’s not proof of citizenship in any way? Some technicality.

You mean like the CNN article that was footnoted from Wikipedia?

http://articles.cnn.com/1998-02-13/politics/cq_sanchez_1_dornans-sanchez-illegal-votes?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS

CNN:

http://articles.cnn.com/1998-02-13/politics/cq_sanchez_1_dornans-sanchez-illegal-votes?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS

Or the New York Times?

I did, in post #132. Any response to any of the suggestions I made?

Again with the “honest and fair”. Was what they did legal? If not, pursue that angle. If so, then do as much as you possible can legally to counteract them. They made some very smart moves, and either we have to counteract with even smarter moves, or we fail. Each and every time.

The article which specifically says that Sanchez won fair and square?

The article entitle “Proof of Illegal Voters Falls Short, Keeping Sanchez In Office”?

Anyway, that says nothing about the fact that it is utterly moronic to declare wikipedia “a great source.”

And again, if need be. Over and over, if such is the case. And its damned important principle, as if I need to remind. When a legislature can use the power of the law to ensure themselves electoral advantage, how long before the Party finds you?

What is this fetish some of you guys have about “legal”? ** Bricker** I sort of understand, he’s a… Oh, dear Og, is that it? Are you one of *them?
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This must be the part where I gush with gratitude at your sternly avuncular advice, so valuable for an idealistic moonbat like myself. I really must advise, though, than I can be a bit snappish at times. If you reach to pat me on the head, you might be wanting to count your fingers when you withdraw your hand.

Maybe his crew can tie it into the Republican War on Women.

Here’s a real solution… maybe the bad guys would go away if there was a law to permanently ban from voting anyone who cast an illegal vote or facilitated the casting of one.

Yes, the article that says that there were hundreds of confirmed illegal votes cast, and possible thousands. That article. As I posted earlier, this is the only election that I am aware of where all of the ballots were checked, and they found a pretty high number of illegally cast ballots. The reason I posted this is to counter the claims that there is no problem with illegally cast ballots, and to counter the oft-made claim that non-residents would dare risk their living status to vote illegally. As is shown by this one election, more than a handful of people are willing to do so.

As for my wikipedia cite - you must have missed the sarcasm in my writing, for that I obviously missed a bit in communication. Next time, though, you might find it helpful to check the footnotes. They really do help.

“Never appeal to a man’s ‘better nature.’ He may not have one. Invoking his ‘self—interest’ gives you more leverage.”-Heinlein
Could it be the Republicans are coming out ahead because their campaigns appeal to the self interest of their target audience?

After you come in and shit all over the thread, you don’t get to change the thread to talk about what you want to talk about. This thread is not about your desire to tell everyone they are stupid and then start your own political acitivism campaign

Until you apologize for your posts, there’s no point in talking to you.

Oh, and “illegal” voting doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Illegal aliens are people and they live here. Whoever wins the election will affect them as much or more than it will affect any of you. I’ve yet to see any non-bigoted reason why they shouldn’t get to vote that doesn’t fall apart under even the slightest bit of scrutiny.

Well, there you go. One good reason for voter ID laws!

You might need to change the Constitution if you want anyone who happens to be present to vote.

  1. I never said everyone was stupid.
  2. I never said anyone was stupid.
  3. ElvisL1ves asked me if I had any ideas to help the Democrats, and I responded in the very next post.
  4. Unless a moderator tells me to go away, I will continue to participate in this conversation.
  5. I don’t recognize your authority to demand apologies on behalf of all the other posters. If I owe you an apology, tell me why.

Statement like the above are like manna to the Republicans.