# Armageddon - Self fulfilling Prophecy?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armageddon-self-fulfilling-prophecy/297639>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 4, 2005, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armageddon-self-fulfilling-prophecy/297639 "2005-04-04T08:13:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2005, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armageddon-self-fulfilling-prophecy/297639/21 "2005-04-07T06:02:18Z")

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> [@Alien](#):
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> Yeah, I forgot. The Christians did not side with the Nazis. On the contrary, Hitler sent 4000 Catholic priests to the camps. It’s true that the Christian leadership sides with the fascist in Spain and Italy, but that’s a different story.

He might be talking about [Pius XII](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/031017.html), although that’s pretty controversial and “siding with the Nazis” is putting it too strongly even if you think he did nothing to deter them.

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**Author:** ![Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/46a35a/32.png) [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walker_in_Eternity)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2005, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armageddon-self-fulfilling-prophecy/297639/22 "2005-04-07T08:39:55Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> He might be talking about [Pius XII](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/031017.html), although that’s pretty controversial and “siding with the Nazis” is putting it too strongly even if you think he did nothing to deter them.

I was talking about Pius XII.

Although I was not implying that all Christians or even just Catholics were guilty of association, the very fact that Britain and America fought the Nazi’s is proof of this, Being at least nominaly Christian countries.

I was just trying to be balanced and not make this into a “lets knock Islam thread”.

**Alien** said:

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> And to clear up your post: First, the Tamils are regarded as the founders of modern terrorism. Secondly, many Christians would be just as happy if adultery or similar stuff (you might think of abortion here) was a criminal offense. In fact one of the few things that fundamentalist Christianity and fundamentalist Islam has in common is their view on the role of families in society. Thirdly, there are South-American nations doing heavy research on WMDs. Just Google.

You have a valid point with the Tamils, and the relationship between Islam and Christianity, my point was the danger of all forms of religious fanaticism.

I was not aware of WMD developement is South America and will google it, but my point is that even if the weapons exist, the rebels/revolutionaries etc would not use them on their own people.

BTW what is being done to stop the growth of weapons ijn this area, i.e. sanctions etc?

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