# Armed protesters stalk peaceful Muslims at Texas mosque: We want to show force **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 22, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303 "2015-11-22T20:37:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/21 "2015-11-23T02:14:52Z")
> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#): > > What a bunch of racist fucks! It just seems to be getting worse and worse. Religion is not a “race.” Unless I missed the memo that explained how “racist” is the word to use to demonize anyone you disagree with over any factor. Dislike a religion? Racist! Dislike an ideology, unless that ideology is conservatism? Racist! Dislike tomatoes? Racist! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/22 "2015-11-23T02:18:48Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > The message seemed to be “Be afraid of us.” I think it’s also “We love ISIS so much we will terrorize people on their orders” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/23 "2015-11-23T02:20:06Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Religion is not a “race.” Unless I missed the memo that explained how “racist” is the word to use to demonize anyone you disagree with over any factor. Dislike a religion? Racist! Dislike an ideology, unless that ideology is conservatism? Racist! Dislike tomatoes? Racist! Oh, well that’s very different then. This makes the actions of this armed mob perfectly acceptable then. It’s OK to hate all Muslims then. Gotcha. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/24 "2015-11-23T02:20:24Z")
OT: Why are a lot of people so afraid of being called racists and not being racist per se? ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Time\_Hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9adbd/32.png) [@Old\_Time\_Hockey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Old_Time_Hockey)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/25 "2015-11-23T02:24:06Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Religion is not a “race.” Unless I missed the memo that explained how “racist” is the word to use to demonize anyone you disagree with over any factor. Dislike a religion? Racist! Dislike an ideology, unless that ideology is conservatism? Racist! Dislike tomatoes? Racist! So obviously you have no problem with what these redneck cowardly fucks are doing? Conservatives seem to paint all Muslims with the same brush, just ask your leading Presidential candidate. May as well call it a race thing, since they all look alike to you. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/26 "2015-11-23T02:27:41Z")
> [@Old\_Time\_Hockey](#): > > So obviously you have no problem with what these redneck cowardly fucks are doing? Conservatives seem to paint all Muslims with the same brush, just ask your leading Presidential candidate. May as well call it a race thing, since they all look alike to you. I don’t think it’s cowardly. It’s reactionary as hell, yes, but too many people are scared sh|tless of Muslims, even the devout, peaceful kind. They’re just sending a message others are too afraid to send. The fact that they’re focusing their ire on solid, peaceful citizens is bad, but real terrorists don’t leave mailing addresses. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/27 "2015-11-23T02:33:29Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Oh, well that’s very different then. This makes the actions of this armed mob perfectly acceptable then. It’s OK to hate all Muslims then. Gotcha. No, **octopus** is objecting to calling them racists when race has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. What’s the term for somebody who discriminates on the basis of religion? ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Time\_Hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9adbd/32.png) [@Old\_Time\_Hockey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Old_Time_Hockey)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/28 "2015-11-23T02:34:15Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > I don’t think it’s cowardly. It’s reactionary as hell, yes, but too many people are scared sh|tless of Muslims, even the devout, peaceful kind. They’re just sending a message others are too afraid to send. The fact that they’re focusing their ire on solid, peaceful citizens is bad, but real terrorists don’t leave mailing addresses. Brandishing weapons and wearing face masks at a place of worship. I would add bullying to the cowardly. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/29 "2015-11-23T02:39:10Z")
Objectionable in a lot of ways, surely. But when they start sending those same Muslims to internment camps for the duration of this “war on terror,” that’s when I’ll start siding with them. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/30 "2015-11-23T02:39:34Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > No, **octopus** is objecting to calling them racists when race has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. > > What’s the term for somebody who discriminates on the basis of religion? “Bigot” is the general term, and works well in the case of religion. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/31 "2015-11-23T02:50:07Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > Objectionable in a lot of ways, surely. But when they start sending those same Muslims to internment camps for the duration of this “war on terror,” that’s when I’ll start siding with them. Which “them”? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/32 "2015-11-23T03:22:35Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Oh, well that’s very different then. This makes the actions of this armed mob perfectly acceptable then. It’s OK to hate all Muslims then. Gotcha. Is English your first language? But the word I’d use is intolerant. Which ironically is quite common on these very boards towards an ideology that scares the majority on here. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/33 "2015-11-23T03:22:58Z")
I thought it was clear: the Texas mosque-goers. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/34 "2015-11-23T03:33:18Z")
“The god-damned Russians got nothing to do with this!!!” ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/35 "2015-11-23T03:37:40Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > Objectionable in a lot of ways, surely. But when they start sending those same Muslims to internment camps for the duration of this “war on terror,” that’s when I’ll start siding with them. So for now you’re still “siding with” the “objectionable” masked gunmen, over the innocent Americans they’re targeting? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/36 "2015-11-23T03:40:17Z")
Armed intimidation is terrorism. Any debate about whichever other “ism” may also apply is beside the point. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/37 "2015-11-23T03:40:47Z")
Uh… yeah? ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/38 "2015-11-23T03:45:05Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > Uh… yeah? Why do you hate America? ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/39 "2015-11-23T03:47:39Z")
I’m not American and I don’t hate it. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303/40 "2015-11-23T04:43:46Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The article mentions that the group was carrying signs saying things like “Stop the Islamization of America.” I looked up “houses of worship” in Irving, Texas in the online yellow pages, just to see how many mosques and Islamic centers there were in this city that these locals felt so threatened. I was surprised at the variety there are in Irving; Hindu temples, a Christian Science reading room, a Jehovah’s Witness temple, Korean churches, an LDS family history center, a Greek Orthodox church, a Baha’i temple, a Pentecostal church and dozens of Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian and Evangelical churches (in addition to the oppressive number of Islamic centers). I think there’s even a Catholic church. Based on numbers alone, I’d think these guys would be more concerned about America being over-run by Baptist churches. I wouldn’t be surprised that many of those armed protesters would look at the Baha’i temple and consider it a mosque. Nor would I be surprised if they have the same reaction to the Hindu temple. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armed-protesters-stalk-peaceful-muslims-at-texas-mosque-we-want-to-show-force/738303.md?page=3)