# Armstrong Williams: A Quarter Million Dollar Bush Spokesman

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 7, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602 "2005-01-07T17:33:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/21 "2005-01-08T04:23:05Z")

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Hey, I’m a member of the media! Pay me $240,000 and I’ll say damn near anything. Except that would be wrong. Damn principles and ethics and stuff!

There’s nothing wrong with a pundit taking a stand on an issue. That’s what pundits do. Where Mr. Williams went wrong was taking taxpayer money and not disclosing that. His credibility as a serious pundit is now in question. I’m wondering if he took money from other groups to say good things about them.

I know I’m asking for the moon, sun, stars, and a pony, but the Bush administration should be ashamed of itself for even considering this. But shame isn’t an emotion that comes easily to them.

Robin

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/22 "2005-01-08T04:28:17Z")

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**elucidator** , I make it a point to reserve my scorn for things that have actually happened.

> [@MsRobyn](#):
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> I know I’m asking for the moon, sun, stars, and a pony,…

I like that line; I may borrow it on occasion.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/23 "2005-01-08T04:37:19Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> **Reeder** , I know you’re trying to project a tone of wise world-weariness and pitying condescension, but going on about “Bushco” makes you sound about 11 years old.

Pfft. Attack the messenger because you don’t like message and then contribute nothing. Are you **Brutus** in disguise?

Sure, **reeder** is an idiot, but is he _wrong_?

How about you make sure to follow up any references to liberals/libruls/lefties/etc in Great Debates with similar comments?

It’s the fair and balanced thing to do.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/24 "2005-01-08T04:39:03Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> bad coding

God damn motherfucking cock sucking coding errors…

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/25 "2005-01-08T04:43:09Z")

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You need some lessons in formatting?

I’m not cheap…but I’m good.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/26 "2005-01-08T04:44:55Z")

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**Merijeek** , of all my stalkers, you are my favorite.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/27 "2005-01-08T04:45:06Z")

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Not what the girls at the pool hall say.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/28 "2005-01-08T04:59:15Z")

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> [@Brutus](#):
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> **Merijeek** , of all my stalkers, you are my favorite.

Sorry, spanky, but seeing the same crackwhore on my way to work every day doesn’t make me a stalker.

4682 posts, little **B** and you’ve probably got a total less than 9364 lines…

-Joe

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/29 "2005-01-08T05:23:49Z")

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**Brutus**. Pithy. Succinct.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/30 "2005-01-08T05:30:02Z")

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Tha

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/31 "2005-01-08T05:31:57Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> **Brutus**. Pithy. Succinct.

And always with a little hint of something dribbling down his chin…

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/32 "2005-01-08T05:37:40Z")

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Say it!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/33 "2005-01-08T05:46:36Z")

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Interesting issue. And there are two sides to this argument. Anyone interested in having my support on their side should email me with a bid. At the close of business on 1-10-2005, I will join this debate and will offer my full support to the highest bidder.

I am also accepting special bonus incentives for any or all of the following: the posting of spurious data which supports your position; complimentary remarks about you in which I praise your insight and wit; flame posts directing abuse towards your opponents; opening of a second thread if this one dies too soon; and/or inclusion of attributed excerpts from your posts as my sigline.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/34 "2005-01-08T05:51:20Z")

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And you’ll pay me how much?

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/35 "2005-01-08T06:19:49Z")

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This is one of those moments in which its just plain tragic that there’s no such thing as a time machine. If so, we could truly go back in time, meddle with history so that it is a Democratic administration that does something like this, and see what wonderful things conservatives on this board would actually have to say about the practice, if they weren’t called to be so defensive of virtually everything their favored administration is up to (albiet, this isn’t entirely their fault: SOMEONE has to prevent the boards from becoming non-stop dreary pile-ons).

> [@Brutus](#):
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> Tha

Well, obviously you don’t get paid by the letter. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/36 "2005-01-08T06:22:05Z")

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> [@Apos](#):
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> This is one of those moments in which its just plain tragic that there’s no such thing as a time machine. If so, we could truly go back in time, meddle with history so that it is a Democratic administration that does something like this…

Oh, we howled and cryed for 8 years and learned our lesson: Howling and crying doesn’t matter as much as winning elections. You guys will learn too. (Not too quickly, I hope.)

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/37 "2005-01-08T06:23:21Z")

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Some of us even cried. Sigh.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/38 "2005-01-08T06:41:52Z")

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And there is, in fact, something more important than winning the election. And _we_ keep waiting for _you_ to figure \* that\* out!

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/39 "2005-01-08T07:06:35Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> And there is, in fact, something more important than winning the election. And _we_ keep waiting for _you_ to figure \* that\* out!

Ya, but a Republican will _never_ win on American Idol, so we just stopped trying.

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**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2005, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/armstrong-williams-a-quarter-million-dollar-bush-spokesman/283602/40 "2005-01-08T07:26:02Z")

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Williams is a B-level pundit and got paid $240,000. I wonder what the A-list guys are making. For that matter, if they are going all the way down to Williams, I wonder who else is on the payroll…

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