# Arnold Palmer

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 13, 2007, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766 "2007-03-13T17:02:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766/1 "2007-03-13T17:02:11Z")

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In a Cafe Society thread, I just made a statement that I almost erased because I thought, after reading it, that it could be construed as an exaggeration. But then it dawned on me that I do believe it. What I said was that Arnold has attained such a status of honor that if he walked up to any first tee anywhere in the US, players should stand aside and let him play through. He has earned that level of respect.

Does anyone else agree with this, or am I the only one?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766/2 "2007-03-13T17:10:39Z")

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Arnold, Jack, Chi Chi, Tiger…there are more than a few who any golfer worth their balls would step aside for.

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**Author:** ![Rayne\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@Rayne\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rayne_Man)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766/3 "2007-03-13T17:16:05Z")

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He’s appearing on UK TV now advertising a golfing resort in Spain. I didn’t think he needed the money.

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766/4 "2007-03-13T17:18:28Z")

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I am of the impression that the big 5 golfers mentioned would respect the game enough to not feel a need to play over us amateurs. Having had the opportunity to meet Tiger woods through a Make A Wish foundation wish…he is quite a stand up guy, and I’m of the impression that if these guys are not playing for money, they would see nothing wrong with playing in the crowd…It may be a welcome change.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766/5 "2007-03-13T17:19:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Rayne Man]  
He’s appearing on UK TV now advertising a golfing resort in Spain. I didn’t think he needed the money.  
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One of his many businesses is golf course planning and design. Maybe the resort is one of his companys creations?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766/6 "2007-03-13T17:20:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Rayne Man]  
He’s appearing on UK TV now advertising a golfing resort in Spain. I didn’t think he needed the money.  
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He probably designed the course, or his investment company owns the resort.

Great minds, **Adam**! 😃

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766/7 "2007-03-13T17:33:35Z")

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I think Tiger has a ways to go yet to reach that level. For me, it really isn’t so much about skill level as it is about a lifelong demonstration of excellence — not just in the sport itself, but in the treatment of fans and new players. I wouldn’t step aside for Jack either, because I believe him to be spoiled, snarky, and disrespectful toward other players and frankly, toward fans. But that’s just my opinion. Chi-chi. Now, Chi-chi I would beg to join our group. Playing with him would be a real hoot! I’d love to see the sword handling up close and personal! 🙂

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766/8 "2007-03-13T18:03:33Z")

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I’d stand aside for Tiger because he had to fight prejudice.

I wouldn’t stand aside for Arnold (but I might ask for his autograph!).

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766/9 "2007-03-13T18:08:01Z")

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I wouldn’t stand aside for anyone. They’re golfers, they understand about tee times.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766/10 "2007-03-13T18:37:03Z")

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If Tiger showed up at my club, I’d have to call the cops. No, no, no. That won’t do.

And, Arnie can wait to play with the ladies, after 11:00 am. 8:00 am on Thursdays.

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**Author:** ![Figaro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ea666f/32.png) [@Figaro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Figaro)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766/11 "2007-03-13T18:45:52Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
I wouldn’t stand aside for Arnold (but I might ask for his autograph!).  
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I wouldn’t be overly impressed either, but I think it’s a generational thing. Arnie was the first populist figure in golf, and whereas people look on Tiger with awe because of his abilities (and cash), they embrace Arnold Palmer the “reg’ler” person – even though he’s worth a mint.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766/12 "2007-03-13T18:54:58Z")

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His tournament is playing right down the street from where I work. He interviewed on a local affiliate last night…sadly, he admits his game has gone to hell, but he still plays golf and will probably play in the Pro Am, although he admits the teenagers could probably beat him now.

How sad it must be, not to be able to do well the thing you love anymore. Still, he’s out there swinging the club, so I have to give him kudos.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766/13 "2007-03-13T20:22:53Z")

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He has a popular drink named after him. Isn’t that enough?

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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-palmer/395766/14 "2007-03-13T20:32:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Trunk]  
If Tiger showed up at my club, I’d have to call the cops. No, no, no. That won’t do.

And, Arnie can wait to play with the ladies, after 11:00 am. 8:00 am on Thursdays.  
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There is a joke I heard:

Tiger shows up at a snooty, all-white golf club and trys to get in. The man at the gate says no, he can’t go in, but there is a public course “a 3 iron shot” down the road. Tiger says: “but I’m Tiger Woods”! The man says, "Oh, I’m terribly sorry. In your case it’s a “7 iron”.
