# Arnold Schwarzenegger: we really need ANOTHER moron actor politician

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 21, 2003, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-schwarzenegger-we-really-need-another-moron-actor-politician/183335 "2003-06-21T01:56:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-schwarzenegger-we-really-need-another-moron-actor-politician/183335/61 "2003-06-24T13:54:02Z")

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I’m no particular fan of Arnold but what does it matter if he’s an actor and has no specific political experience? LOTS of people enter politics with zero political experience, and lots of them come from a wide variety of occupations that have zero to do with politics. Some of them end up being good and some don’t. From where does this perception come that because he’s an ACTOR he must be especially incompetent and have no business whatsoever running for governor? Just because he’s an actor doesn’t make him a “moron.” And no matter what you think of him, anyone looking at what he’s done with his life thus far has to admit he can’t be completely stupid. No matter that he has a “funny accent” and “can’t pronounce English words correctly.” I never knew those were two factors that precluded intelligence.

Anyway, if the people of California think he’s going to be so incredibly awful, they can choose not to vote for him. If he even runs.

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-schwarzenegger-we-really-need-another-moron-actor-politician/183335/62 "2003-06-24T16:36:26Z")

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Scary part is if this dumbass recall gets pushed through and he makes it on the ballot, you know he’ll get elected. Unless Feinstien goes on the ballot. Then the demos at least have a _chance_ of staying in office.

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**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-schwarzenegger-we-really-need-another-moron-actor-politician/183335/63 "2003-06-24T22:51:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lezlers \*  
> \*\*I’m sorry, but what does any of that have to do with his potential success at _politics_?
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Quite a bit.

Schwarzenegger knows how to get things done his way. He knows how to deal with people. He knows how to push ideas and proposals through yards and yards of red tape. He knows how to get people to like him. These are skills that transfer nicely to the political arena.

Also, he has the well-earned self-confidence that comes with starting out with virtually nothing and working your way to the top. After the challenges he’s faced in his life, I’d say that political struggles are relatively routine. What’s going to scare him? Lobbyists?

As has been pointed out, he is also pretty intelligent. People look at the muscles, hear the accent and think “knuckle-dragger.” Just remember that this knuckle-dragger has done it all, and he’s done it _his_ way.

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-schwarzenegger-we-really-need-another-moron-actor-politician/183335/64 "2003-06-25T00:49:40Z")

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To clarify, I wasn’t seriously trying to say that Arnold was a moron: as i said, tons of people get this wrong. It just irritates me to no end when someone tries to manhandle revolutionary patriotism to serve some present political desire, mangling history as they go. My dig at actors was entirely based on conservative rantings about non-conservative celebrities stealing their personal limelights.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-schwarzenegger-we-really-need-another-moron-actor-politician/183335/65 "2003-06-25T03:17:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Linty Fresh \*  
> \*\*As has been pointed out, he is also pretty intelligent. People look at the muscles, hear the accent and think “knuckle-dragger.” Just remember that this knuckle-dragger has done it all, and he’s done it _his_ way. \*\*

The dumbest thing a politician can do is “misunderestimate” his competition. They did it with Eisenhower, they did it with Reagan, they did it with Bush Jr., and they might well do it with Schwartzenegger.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-schwarzenegger-we-really-need-another-moron-actor-politician/183335/66 "2003-06-25T04:20:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by spooje \*  
> \*\*I’m gonna need to see a cite on that. He hosted it. He didn’t write it. \*\*

Surprisingly, I can’t find _any_ sites which mention _any_ of Ramtha’s famous members, even Linda Evans, who is an _admitted_ follower of her. The _only_ reference I can find to Mike Farrell and cults is a [blurb](http://www.killyourtv.com/freeride/reviews.html) for a book on cults.

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> \*\*It was a job. I don’t see what relevance that has. \*\*

Right, and Heidi Fleiss was just “running a business.” One has to question a person’s credibility at taking such a job. Sure, maybe Farrell needed the money because the royalties from _M_A_S_H\*\* just weren’t enough to make his mortgage payment, but I doubt it.

I find it interesting that [IMDB](http://www.imdb.com/Name?Farrell,+Mike+(I)) doesn’t mention the program, but [Yahoo movies](http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1802818757&cf=info&intl=us) does.

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**Author:** ![lite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5ac83/32.png) [@lite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lite)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-schwarzenegger-we-really-need-another-moron-actor-politician/183335/67 "2003-06-25T05:24:03Z")

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(possible hijack)

Sine the Dems don’t beleive Bush won the election, let’s uphold the constitution and re-elct him in 2008! (His 2nd term for those in Rio Linda)

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**Author:** ![Largo62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Largo62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Largo62)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-schwarzenegger-we-really-need-another-moron-actor-politician/183335/68 "2003-06-25T07:46:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lite \*  
> \*\*(possible hijack)
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> Sine the Dems don’t beleive Bush won the election, let’s uphold the constitution and re-elct him in 2008! (His 2nd term for those in Rio Linda) \*\*

Your post _is_ a hijack. If you want to debate the 22nd Amendment please start another thread. If you have something on point to offer here, by all means do so.

And try to put in _ **all** _ the letters. I thought this was going to be about calculus. 😉

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-schwarzenegger-we-really-need-another-moron-actor-politician/183335/69 "2003-06-25T14:49:11Z")

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And learn how to spell while you’re at it. (I usually never point out people’s spelling mistakes, but since that post was such an obvious attempt at hijacking, not to mention just plain lame, I couldn’t resist. Sorry.)

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arnold-schwarzenegger-we-really-need-another-moron-actor-politician/183335/70 "2003-06-25T14:58:09Z")

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No fan I of Mike Farrell’s politics, with the exception of sharing his distaste for the death penalty.

But you cannot hold an acting job against him. He’s an actor. Should we refuse to consider a political job for Anthony Hopkins because of his tendancy towards cannibalism?

If he, in his proper persona, supported some nutcake, then let’s see the evidence. The only way his acting becomes relevant, in my view, is if he did the job for little or no pay because he was such an ardent supporter.

- Rick

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