# Arrest Development: 9/19

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 20, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453 "2005-09-20T00:27:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/41 "2005-09-20T14:20:23Z")

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> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> I have to admit, the joke in “Eve Holt” may be a bit too subtle for me

Eve Holt. Steve Holt. They rhyme, see?

Unless there’s a deeper joke in there as well. In which case I don’t get it either.

Blue handprint on the back of her head – brill!

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/42 "2005-09-20T14:24:19Z")

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I can think of one thing that would have vastly improved the episode – a brief cameo by Thomas Lennon. I’m surprised they didn’t think of it. Or maybe there were legal issues. Or maybe it slipped right by me.

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**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/43 "2005-09-20T14:28:11Z")

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I don’t get the Steve Holt/Eve Holt joke either, but last night’s episode was the first one I’ve ever seen. I loved the show; it’s absolutely DENSE with jokes, isn’t it? We’ll probably own the first season by the end of the week.

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/44 "2005-09-20T14:30:47Z")

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I don’t think there’s anything deeper to the Eve/Steve joke than the notion that at one point there was a teenage girl running around exclaiming “EVE HOLT!” like her son does so well.

Those of you who are new to the show, there is a lot of information here if you want to read up:

[http://www.the-op.com](http://www.the-op.com)

Can’t wait for next week!

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/45 "2005-09-20T14:31:05Z")

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> [@cbawlmer](#):
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> I don’t get the Steve Holt/Eve Holt joke either, but last night’s episode was the first one I’ve ever seen. I loved the show; it’s absolutely DENSE with jokes, isn’t it? We’ll probably own the first season by the end of the week.

Ever since the first season, Steve Holt, a likeable enough (but dumb) guy Maebe has had a crush on, yells his name “Steve Holt!” as an affirmation like “Yea yea!” whenever anything good happens, and then it became his introduction, then just a catch-phrase. Eve Holt is his mother, the names rhyme, and it’s just kinda funny if yelling her name was her catch-phrase too.

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**Author:** ![Mal\_Adroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@Mal\_Adroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mal_Adroit)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/46 "2005-09-20T14:36:52Z")

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> [@cbawlmer](#):
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> I loved the show; it’s absolutely DENSE with jokes, isn’t it?

Indeed. Forgive me anyone who read the “reminder” thread and finds me repeating myself, but:

> [@Mal Adroit](#):
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> There are more fall-on-the-floor-laughing jokes in any 60 seconds of AD than other programs manage in an entire season.

Hey, quoting yourself is fun.  
Not as fun as your cousin rubbing off on you, but. Y’know.

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/47 "2005-09-20T14:41:06Z")

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> [@Mal Adroit](#):
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> Hey, quoting yourself is fun.

Not as much fun as starting a new thread quoting yourself from a previous thread.

That is your way of saying that you came up with a thought so brilliant that it warranted its own thread for full discussion.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/48 "2005-09-20T14:44:25Z")

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> [@cbawlmer](#):
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> I loved the show; it’s absolutely DENSE with jokes, isn’t it?

Indeed, it must be why VCRs/DVDs were invented. The episodes must not be watched, they must be studied. The jokes are a riddle wrapped in a mystery wrapped in a banana peel.

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**Author:** ![Mal\_Adroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@Mal\_Adroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mal_Adroit)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/49 "2005-09-20T14:46:54Z")

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> [@middleman](#):
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> Not as much fun as starting a new thread quoting yourself from a previous thread.

Er. . . wha? Did I do this?

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/50 "2005-09-20T15:07:13Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> Steve Holt, a likeable enough (but dumb) guy Maebe has had a crush on, yells his name “Steve Holt!” as an affirmation like “Yea yea!” whenever anything good happens, and then it became his introduction, then just a catch-phrase.

When he introduced himself to GOB, he did the “STEVE HOLT!” thing, which includes raising his hands above his head. STEVE HOLT! is also in his seventh year of high school – there was a yearbook bit last season showing his various pictures from his three senior years, the quotes ranging from “I’m out of here!” to “See ya, suckers!” to “Study hard guys – trust me.”

One other funny bit – according to the letter, S.A.D.'s headquarters are at the corner of Hyde and No. Hope.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/51 "2005-09-20T15:14:34Z")

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> [@Mal Adroit](#):
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> Er. . . wha? Did I do this?

No, you did not. But I recommend you try it some time!

😃

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**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/52 "2005-09-20T15:38:19Z")

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and what about Buster…puts a tape of himself snoring in his bed.

“I slept in the car so I wouldn’t disturb you, and then put the tape of me snoring so you wouldn’t know I was gone.” or something like that.

The volv-o & claptrap were hilarious. I didn’t catch the Seaward, but thanks for pointing it out. Was that Michael Savage(radio guy) as the investment guy who upgraded Bluth Ind to “don’t buy!”??? I thought I saw that in the credits, but they were really small, and I have a 13-inch tv.  
Those writers are geniuses.

best epi ever.

and I can’t wait for xmas, my mom already bought me the Season 1 dvd for my present!

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/53 "2005-09-20T15:40:18Z")

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Ratings are in. BAD NEWS!

> [@](#):
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> A move to a new night didn’t help FOX’s “Arrested Development,” which combined with the series premiere of “Kitchen Confidential” finished fifth.

It got beat by WB’s Seventh Heaven!

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/54 "2005-09-20T15:46:57Z")

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> [@The Big Cheese](#):
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> I didn’t catch the Seaward, but thanks for pointing it out.

To be clear, that’s from an earlier episode. (First season, I think.)

> [@](#):
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> Was that Michael Savage(radio guy) as the investment guy who upgraded Bluth Ind to “don’t buy!”???

I assume it was Jim Cramer, host of CNBC’s “Mad Money” show, “spoofing” himself. Although it really isn’t much of a spoof, because that’s exactly what his real show is like, with the yelling and pacing around. (If it wasn’t actually Cramer playing himself, it was still a near-perfect replica of his show.)

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/55 "2005-09-20T15:52:59Z")

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I’m pretty sure it was him.

If it wasn’t they didn’t bother changing his name or the show’s name for the segment.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/56 "2005-09-20T15:54:49Z")

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The Fonz, making out… with a _guy?!_  
Well, I guess I’m all grown up, now.

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/57 "2005-09-20T15:58:30Z")

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> [@middleman](#):
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> Ratings are in. BAD NEWS!

I wouldn’t panic until next week. Last night it was on opposite football. My husband won’t change the channel for God hisownself when football is on, and I don’t think he’s alone.

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/58 "2005-09-20T16:00:21Z")

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> [@middleman](#):
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> Ratings are in. BAD NEWS!
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> It got beat by WB’s Seventh Heaven!

Damn. Hopefully Carmen Electra will strip in anguish.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/59 "2005-09-20T16:01:13Z")

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That’ll be fifty bucks.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-development-9-19/322453/60 "2005-09-20T16:28:54Z")

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> [@middleman](#):
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> Ratings are in. BAD NEWS!
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> It got beat by WB’s Seventh Heaven!

Maybe that will finally be the excuse for Justine Bateman to come on the show and kiss her brother? 😃

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