# Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey case **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2006, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008 "2006-08-16T20:50:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/361 "2006-08-28T21:10:40Z")
[QUOTE=Patty O’Furniture] Really? But still, how inconsiderate. How is the media supposed to get rid of their hard-on now? [/QUOTE] Well, they can always hope for another attractive white woman/girl to go missing. That should give 'em one of them erections that last more than 4 hours. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/362 "2006-08-28T21:17:27Z")
I don’t hear any of you apologizing to Mr Karr for believing he committed the heinous crime for which he was almost accused based on the now-flimsy evidence of his confession. **For shame!** ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/363 "2006-08-28T21:50:25Z")
[QUOTE=5que] Our long national nightmare is not over. [/QUOTE] :: applause :: Best one-liner of the thread! ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/364 "2006-08-28T21:51:13Z")
To quote Emily Litella: _Never Mind!!_ ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/365 "2006-08-28T22:06:17Z")
[QUOTE=dropzone] I don’t hear any of you apologizing to Mr Karr for believing he committed the heinous crime for which he was almost accused based on the now-flimsy evidence of his confession. **For shame!** [/QUOTE] Who would any of those people be? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/366 "2006-08-28T22:10:09Z")
Hey, let’s not rush to reverse judgment _too_ fast. There’s still time to indict Karr for obtaining pate, king prawns and champagne under false pretenses. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/367 "2006-08-28T22:18:04Z")
Let’s see, the tickets back from Thailand were $2,500 each. Plus the tickets for traveling to Thailand. Plus accommodations there. Was at least three people sent. :dubious: Plus their California stay. $20,000 EASY. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/368 "2006-08-28T22:42:22Z")
They are currently gonna hold him for extradition to California for a misdemeaner. :o ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/369 "2006-08-28T22:58:43Z")
As I said [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7724824&posted=1#post7724824), it’s not as if Karr had a choice about what class he flew in. Nor did he initiate a “confession.” If you want to be angry at anyone, perhaps the Thai police, who couldn’t keep quiet for a week while the US decided whether they might have the right guy, and who made up quotes from him, would be a good target. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/370 "2006-08-29T00:16:13Z")
[QUOTE=Jackmannii] Hey, let’s not rush to reverse judgment _too_ fast. There’s still time to indict Karr for obtaining pate, king prawns and champagne under false pretenses. :dubious: [/QUOTE] Don’t forget the kiddy porn conviction in California. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/371 "2006-08-29T00:30:03Z")
> [@Dio](#): > > Who would any of those people be? Ummmm… [QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] [Linkage](http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=189d522a-0abe-421a-00f3-dded5288de58&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf) Not many details yet, but I’m posting this in the pit so I can shout out a giant FUCK YOU to everyone in the media that convicted and crucified her parents for all those years. Are we going to see any apologies? I doubt it. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/372 "2006-08-29T00:32:13Z")
[QUOTE=Hamlet] Ummmm… [/QUOTE] If you rad that post carefully, you’ll see that I never said he was guilty. Nor did I say anywhere else in this thread or any other thread. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/373 "2006-08-29T01:04:29Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] If you rad that post carefully, you’ll see that I never said he was guilty. Nor did I say anywhere else in this thread or any other thread. [/QUOTE] Indeed. However you seemed to strongly indicate a belief that this was a resounding smackdown of the the people who suspected the Ramseys themselves. They are no more (nor less) debunked now than they were the day before Karr surfaced. You may still send a resounding \ ***FUCK YOU** \* to those eager to buy into the conspiracies based on cultural/class distaste for the Ramseys’ lifestyles, though (placing a child in kiddie pageants is not making her rape bait, and being unemotional in public is not a crime). ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/374 "2006-08-29T01:31:36Z")
[QUOTE=JRDelirious] Indeed. However you seemed to strongly indicate a belief that this was a resounding smackdown of the the people who suspected the Ramseys themselves. They are no more (nor less) debunked now than they were the day before Karr surfaced. [/quote] Actually, the Ramseys were cleared a long time ago so those people were already debunked before this. My “Fuck You” to the media was not meant to be an indication that I though Karr was guilty but only to express some satisfaction that they had to ate least ENTERTAIN another idea. Plus, this guy was claiming he’d done it, plus I’m not in the media. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/375 "2006-08-29T02:10:11Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Actually, the Ramseys were cleared a long time ago so those people were already debunked before this. [/QUOTE] No they weren’t. Where did this bit of misinformation come from? They are right now the main suspects, as they have been for a long time (by the police). ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/376 "2006-08-29T02:18:53Z")
No. They were cleared by a judge a while ago. They are no longer suspects. Hold on a second and I’ll dig up a cite. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/377 "2006-08-29T02:23:49Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] No. They were cleared by a judge a while ago. They are no longer suspects. Hold on a second and I’ll dig up a cite. [/QUOTE] I know the cite. It doesn’t mean anything. It was from a civil case where no case was even presented for the prosecution. ---
**Author:** ![jimmmy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/73ab20/32.png) [@jimmmy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimmmy)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/378 "2006-08-29T02:27:57Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Actually, the Ramseys were cleared a long time ago so those people were already debunked before this. [/QUOTE] Hold up Chief. You know I respect you but that isn’t true. The Ramsey’s were cleared by the jackass DA who just showed the world she is a **total** jackass when she released a statement concurring with a federal judge in Atlanta who, in dismissing a civil lawsuit against John and Patsy Ramsey, said there was no evidence showing the parents killed JonBenet and abundant evidence that an intruder killed the child. The Boulder police and the FBI have neither cleared nor “debunked” the Ramsey’s as suspects. I think you gave a nuanced Fuck You. I saw what you did and I am cool with all of it, but the statement: _They are no more (nor less) debunked now than they were the day before Karr surfaced._ Is 100% correct. [Based on what I know I would not convict the Ramsey’s in a Court of Law but until someone who knew the Ramsey’s in Boulder, and their home, and had a murderous or pedophilic past, or future after '96, and had the opportunity to kill JBR surfaces, I think John and Patsy should rightly remain under the umbrella of suspicion] ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/379 "2006-08-29T02:28:14Z")
[Here you go](http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/famous/ramsey/18.html) The judge said there was no evidence at all that the Ramseys did it and that an intruder was the most likely theory. So no, the Ramseys are not prime suspects and accusations that any evidence says otherwise have indeed benn debunked. There is no more evidence against the Ramseys than there is against the Pope. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008/380 "2006-08-29T02:32:17Z")
[QUOTE=jimmmy] Hold up Chief. You know I respect you but that isn’t true. The Ramsey’s were cleared by the jackass DA who just showed the world she is a **total** jackass when she released a statement concurring with a federal judge in Atlanta who, in dismissing a civil lawsuit against John and Patsy Ramsey, said there was no evidence showing the parents killed JonBenet and abundant evidence that an intruder killed the child. The Boulder police and the FBI have neither cleared nor “debunked” the Ramsey’s as suspects. [/quote] Fine, that still means that the DA didn’t consider them to be likely suspects and that the evidence points to an intruder. Public suspicions of the parents have at least been shown to be groundless, even if the FBI hasn’t made it “official.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrest-made-in-jonbenet-ramsey-case/369008.md?page=20)