# Arrested Development 4.17.05 SPOILERS!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 18, 2005, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815 "2005-04-18T00:54:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/41 "2005-04-18T13:25:38Z")

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My gut of what happened: George Sr, knocks out Oscar, takes him to the court house restroom, preps him and then shows up outside.

Makes his speech, tells the family not to visit him, runs inside.

Makes enough noise to get the cops to follow, runs in the restroom where he stashed Oscar, climbs out the window.

Heads to Vegas.

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/42 "2005-04-18T13:46:35Z")

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The Season 1 DVDs were released on October 19th. I can’t wait for Season 2 ones to come out since I missed pretty much the whole season. :o

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/43 "2005-04-18T15:13:05Z")

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> [@Slacker](#):
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> It doesn’t sound stupid, don’t worry. 😉 That part of the show wasn’t explained terribly well…
> 
> It looked more like George Sr. had stashed Oscar in in bathroom at the courthouse. Someone on TWoP pointed out that it explains why he told the family not to visit him in prison this time during his speech outside the courthouse - because of course Oscar would be able to convince them of what happened.

Hey, thanks. Yeah, the courthouse, not the jail. It all makes sense now.

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/44 "2005-04-18T15:16:49Z")

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Can we blame the confusion on shoddy narration? :eek:

Just kidding Ron, you rock! 😃

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**Author:** ![LateComer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5ac83/32.png) [@LateComer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LateComer)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/45 "2005-04-18T15:18:40Z")

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> [@Slacker](#):
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> It looked more like George Sr. had stashed Oscar in in bathroom at the courthouse. Someone on TWoP pointed out that it explains why he told the family not to visit him in prison this time during his speech outside the courthouse - because of course Oscar would be able to convince them of what happened.

They’ll know when his hair grows back.

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**Author:** ![audiobottle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@audiobottle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audiobottle)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/46 "2005-04-18T15:22:34Z")

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Ah, but in the “Next season on Arrested Development” bit, Oscar finds out the damage stress can do.

-“Why won’t it grow back?”

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/47 "2005-04-18T15:33:13Z")

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They also set up Oscar by showing that he burned his fingerprints in the kitchen, although George, Sr. didn’t know that.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/48 "2005-04-18T15:38:36Z")

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> [@audiobottle](#):
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> Ah, but in the “Next season on Arrested Development” bit, Oscar finds out the damage stress can do.
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> -“Why won’t it grow back?”

And of course he burned his fingerprints off in a CornBaller ™ accident earlier in the episode, making it even harder to prove his identity. I love the CornBaller.

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**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/49 "2005-04-18T16:06:33Z")

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I’m thinking th ecreators of the show felt this might be the last episode, look how many old show references came up throughout. Even cameos of Buster’s hand chair in the background, George’s flash back to his prison days, references to the ship being blown up, the end of the Bluman grouops disist order, the Charlie brown depression music, The cousin movie and of course the cornballerTM.  
There are probably a hundred others but I missed Paul Winfield, Lucille 2 and at least a passing reference to white power Bill.

My favorite line was by the guy explaining the water damage below. “And for some reason a hell of a lot of blue paint”

Another season ending with a great escape by George. Oh please let there be a next season!!

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/50 "2005-04-18T18:09:14Z")

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Oh yeah, on George Michael’s copy of the cousin movie (I think), the cover had a quote by reviewer Tim Goodman of the SF Chronicle… just like the DVD box of season one of Arrested Development.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/51 "2005-04-18T18:32:32Z")

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> [@kingpengvin](#):
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> My favorite line was by the guy explaining the water damage below. “And for some reason a hell of a lot of blue paint”

“And scraps of denim? Yeah, we have a guy like that here.”

> [@Marley23](#):
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> I liked that GOB’s CD was called “Franklin Comes Alive.”

I liked the sheer idiocy of doing a CD of _ventriloquism_!

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/52 "2005-04-18T19:41:29Z")

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Who was the Night Court actor Kitty was talking about, by the way?

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**Author:** ![byomtoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@byomtoob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/byomtoob)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/53 "2005-04-18T20:00:55Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Who was the Night Court actor Kitty was talking about, by the way?

John Larroquette, a well-known “friend of Bill W.”.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/54 "2005-04-18T20:07:28Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> I liked the sheer idiocy of doing a CD of _ventriloquism_!

Well, to be fair, Edgar Bergen had a successful radio show with his various dummies, Charlie McCarthy being the best-known of them.

> [@Marley23](#):
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> Who was the Night Court actor Kitty was talking about, by the way?

As byomtoob pointed out, elimination (“not Bull, not Harry, and he’s white”) leaves only John Larroquette, reinforced by Kitty’s later reference to him. I’m not sure if JL is himself a recovering alcoholic, but he played one in his short-lived but reasonably funny eponymous post-_Night Court_ sitcom.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/55 "2005-04-18T22:07:46Z")

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IIRC, Kitty even mentioned Larroquette, getting Tobius’ interest, while both where in Michael’s office.

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**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/56 "2005-04-18T22:28:55Z")

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The “John Larroquette Show” was doomed because:

1. it had Alison LaPlaca in the cast (who is a good actress, but death to series, Paula Marshall has inherited her role)
2. it had Gigi Rice in the case. And Gigi Rice is married to … Ted McGinley…

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**Author:** ![\_Deep\_F\_ied](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/7cd45c/32.png) [@\_Deep\_F\_ied](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_Deep_F_ied)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/57 "2005-04-18T22:43:14Z")

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> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> As byomtoob pointed out, elimination (“not Bull, not Harry, and he’s white”) leaves only John Larroquette, reinforced by Kitty’s later reference to him. I’m not sure if JL is himself a recovering alcoholic, but he played one in his short-lived but reasonably funny eponymous post-_Night Court_ sitcom.

I remember Larroquette discussing his rampant alcoholism on Carson or Letterman or something awhile ago. He was telling him about the mass amounts of Tequila he was consuming on some trip he was on and it occurred to him he might have a problem.  
I don’t have a cite, just a vague memory.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/58 "2005-04-18T23:30:18Z")

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I just rewatched it. Best Tobias line of the night, upon seeing Kitty in Michael’s office: “Oh, I see you wasted no time in filling my seat hole.”

And don’t forget when Lucille was telling off Oscar, and warned him, “Take a good look, this is the last time you’ll see THESE!” then the picture cut to a test pattern.

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**Author:** ![pokey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ebca7d/32.png) [@pokey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pokey)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2005, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/59 "2005-04-19T00:20:06Z")

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“Filling my seat hole” is the WEIRDEST Tobias line ever. There isn’t even such a thing as a seat hole.

Somebody said (in a different thread?) that there were going to be a lot of season one references. I guess the return of the Cornballer is a big one. The damn blue man group that I’m sick of is one? Plus

-Gob and Michael wrestling  
-Gob singing 80s hits and making recordings of them  
-George Michael and Maeby haven’t made out since the first show

I don’t know what else.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2005, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-4-17-05-spoilers/299815/60 "2005-04-19T02:35:06Z")

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> [@pokey](#):
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> “Filling my seat hole” is the WEIRDEST Tobias line ever. There isn’t even such a thing as a seat hole.

Well, he couldn’t very well say “filling my asshole” without it being bleeped and losing the joke.

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