# "Arrested Development" - Save Our Bluths! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 3, 2006, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162 "2006-01-03T01:04:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162/41 "2006-01-05T18:36:19Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > The “he knows” line is set up like a punchline, but to what? “steel man” as some sort of gay term…? I think the joke is just that Tobias is pretending not to know The Wizard of Oz, ‘the gay movie.’ ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162/42 "2006-01-05T18:40:45Z")
…and we know darn well that Tobias knows that movie. He was “Dorothy” in prison and all. It’s sort of like the “Tobias, walking down a street he had been on many times before…” joke ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162/43 "2006-01-05T19:02:31Z")
Plus Maebe mentioned in the same episode that Tobias auditioned for Wicked, the musical prequel to The Wizard of Oz (perhaps to play Dorothy?). ---
**Author:** ![sleeepy2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@sleeepy2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeepy2)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162/44 "2006-01-06T02:19:13Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I think the joke is just that Tobias is pretending not to know The Wizard of Oz, ‘the gay movie.’ Ahhh. That makes sense! ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162/45 "2006-01-06T06:06:28Z")
> [@sleeepy2](#): > > Ahhh. That makes sense! Not to me. Apparently, I didn’t get the memo. “The Wizard of Oz” is a gay movie? There have been multiple references to Tobias’ confusion over this? ---
**Author:** ![sleeepy2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@sleeepy2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeepy2)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162/46 "2006-01-06T13:18:41Z")
> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#): > > Not to me. Apparently, I didn’t get the memo. “The Wizard of Oz” is a gay movie? There have been multiple references to Tobias’ confusion over this? I think any Judy Garland movie is considered “gay”. Not seriously of course, but for quick jokes and pop culture references and all, make the gay character a fan of a Judy Garland movie and _ta da_! Comedy! ---
**Author:** ![BluePitbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@BluePitbull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BluePitbull)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162/47 "2006-01-06T13:42:07Z")
> [@sleeepy2](#): > > I think any Judy Garland movie is considered “gay”. Not seriously of course, but for quick jokes and pop culture references and all, make the gay character a fan of a Judy Garland movie and _ta da_! Comedy! Why is being a Judy Garland fan a sign of homosexuality? Is she a lesbian? Gay-rights activist? Is it because of her movies? ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162/48 "2006-01-06T14:19:29Z")
She sings! She dances! She was a horrible mother who died of a drug overdose! ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162/49 "2006-01-06T14:33:16Z")
> [@BluePitbull](#): > > Why is being a Judy Garland fan a sign of homosexuality? Is she a lesbian? Gay-rights activist? Is it because of her movies? She just became a gay icon. Same as Liza Minelli or Kylie Minogue. Don’t try to understand it, I don’t think there really is a rational explanation. ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162/50 "2006-01-06T14:33:31Z")
I know what OCD is, but I didn’t get the “OC Disorder” joke. We were laughing so hard at the racist old lady that if it weren’t for closed captioning we would have missed the line: “We’ll go ahead and tell you. She’s the one that dies.” Hot ham water! ---
**Author:** ![Amok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f17d59/32.png) [@Amok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amok)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162/51 "2006-01-06T14:41:16Z")
> [@Eleanor of Aquitaine](#): > > I know what OCD is, but I didn’t get the “OC Disorder” joke. Various people on the show have referred to Orange County as “the OC” (like the Fox show), and Michael always responds “Don’t call it that”. So when talking about OCD, Tobias called it “the OC Disorder” and Michael again says “Don’t call it that.” ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162/52 "2006-01-06T15:05:44Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > And how brilliant that they use Andy Richter, who had his own brilliant show cancelled on Fox. Quintuplets brilliant? I don’t think so. 😉 –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![sleeepy2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@sleeepy2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeepy2)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162/53 "2006-01-06T17:30:35Z")
> [@Cliffy](#): > > Quintuplets brilliant? I don’t think so. > > 😉 > > –Cliffy \*Andy Richter Controls The Universe \*was an excellent sitcom. _Quintuplets_… not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162/54 "2006-01-06T19:34:03Z")
> [@sleeepy2](#): > > \*Andy Richter Controls The Universe \*was an excellent sitcom. _Quintuplets_… not so much. :smack: THAT’S why they did the whole “identical quintuplets” thing! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-save-our-bluths/338162.md?page=2)