# Arrested Development second season premiere **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 8, 2004, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601 "2004-11-08T05:41:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/1 "2004-11-08T05:41:30Z")
I probably won’t get to see it until Monday night --but does anyone else want to share how they think this episode stacks up to last season’s finale? ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/2 "2004-11-08T06:28:20Z")
The whole link to Saddam was pretty funny… especially the Michael Moore bit. Would you send your kid to Iraq? Yes! LOL! ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/3 "2004-11-08T06:30:27Z")
I’m still working my way through the first season DVDs, so I didn’t see the finale and probably missed a few references in tonight’s episode. But it was still hilarious. I hope the show experienced a ratings spike tonight, seeing as it hasn’t been on since it won all those Emmys. ---
**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/4 "2004-11-08T12:08:00Z")
I would say this is a good nominee for best episode ever. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/5 "2004-11-08T13:44:20Z")
“I just ‘blue’ myself.” “There’s gotta be a better way to say that.” “I saw Tobias just a few hours ago.” “What was the last thing he said?” … “Wonderful things.” ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/6 "2004-11-08T13:48:10Z")
I loved the show from the beginning. This was the best episode yet. “Do open marriages work?” “No. Never. It’s mere self-delusion. Though in our case, it might just be the answer.” ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/7 "2004-11-08T13:58:57Z")
Loved it too, although I miss the clarity of watching it on DVD. 😃 So what’s the connection between AD and The Daily Show? So far I’ve noticed several former/current TDS correspondents in guest roles. The reporter (Trisha Thoon I think) who appears in several episodes is Stacey Grenrock-Woods, the person running the lie detector in last season’s finale is Matt Walsh, and the “I’ve gotta make this place smell like cookies” real estate agent is Ed Helms. Coincidence? Anyway, great show overall - I can’t wait until next week. 😃 “And release…” ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/8 "2004-11-08T14:06:43Z")
Anticipating the Season Premiere, my wife and I rented and watched the entire first season on dvd this weekend. She’s been in bed sick, so it made for the perfect time killer. I had only seen about half the episodes myself and wanted to get caught up. The show is excellent. The premiere held up well against the latter half of Season 1. I would say that the middle part of Season 1 (found on Disc 2 of the three disc set) was the funniest. ---
**Author:** ![Agrippina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/9 "2004-11-08T14:14:47Z")
“I’m afraid he looks dead.” “Wait a minute. Does he look dead or is he really dead?” “No, he looks dead. He’s covered in blue paint.” ---
**Author:** ![caphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19adc/32.png) [@caphis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caphis)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/10 "2004-11-08T15:06:33Z")
I saw this show for the first time last night. I really don’t understand what the hype is about… I didn’t think it was funny. Sure, it had some funny moments, but overall, I thought it was rather drab. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/11 "2004-11-08T15:09:41Z")
caphis, I understand where you’re coming from. I disagree with cheddarsnax, in that this episode was far from the best - it was pretty mediocre in comparison to most of last season. A lot of the humor was based on the audience’s knowledge of the characters to this point, so outsiders may have been a little lost - not a good idea for the season premiere. I’d recommend renting some of the first season if you get a chance. I think it’s the best writing on TV right now. Incredibly sharp. ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/12 "2004-11-08T15:20:32Z")
Did any one notice the tip to Dave Chapelle when ever the cops were around? I love this show, but my wife hates it. ---
**Author:** ![caphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19adc/32.png) [@caphis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caphis)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/13 "2004-11-08T15:22:59Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > caphis, I understand where you’re coming from. I disagree with cheddarsnax, in that this episode was far from the best - it was pretty mediocre in comparison to most of last season. A lot of the humor was based on the audience’s knowledge of the characters to this point, so outsiders may have been a little lost - not a good idea for the season premiere. > > I’d recommend renting some of the first season if you get a chance. I think it’s the best writing on TV right now. Incredibly sharp. Gotcha- will do. =) ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/14 "2004-11-08T15:31:58Z")
> [@Stuffy](#): > > Did any one notice the tip to Dave Chapelle when ever the cops were around? Nope. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/15 "2004-11-08T16:06:47Z")
I hope they bring back Liza Minnelli as the wacky neighbor, she was brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![Airblairxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Airblairxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airblairxxx)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/16 "2004-11-08T17:11:51Z")
So was that, in fact, Michael Moore? If so, add him to the bizarre list of guest stars, including Liza Minelli, Carl Weathers, Henry Winkler, and Heather Graham. This show is BRILLIANT. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/17 "2004-11-08T18:41:05Z")
I don’t think it was him. They specifically avoided showing his face. And add James Lipton of Inside the Actor’s Studio to the list of famous cameos. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/18 "2004-11-08T18:42:42Z")
> [@Airblairxxx](#): > > So was that, in fact, Michael Moore? Didn’t catch the credits, but I don’t think so. My odds-on favorite is that it was Frank Caliendo, of Mad TV and Fox Sports. He does pretty spot on impersonations. Moore would be a piece of cake for him - it’s basically a subdued Andy Rooney. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/19 "2004-11-08T18:54:04Z")
> [@watsonwil](#): > > And add James Lipton of Inside the Actor’s Studio to the list of famous cameos. Toss Julia-Louis Dreyfus on the list too. And while they’re certainly not A-List, Christopher Guest fans would want to add Michael Hitchcock as Ira Gilligan, Jane Lynch as George Sr’s informant turned disciple, and John Michael Higgins as the overly professional attorney. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/20 "2004-11-08T19:21:56Z")
What is great about this series, that you catch watching it on DVD and may miss watching it weekly, is that in the"on the next episode" segments, the scenes usually never appear in the next episode. Sometimes entire subplots are resolved by these segments and they never appear next week. E.g.- Ira Gilligan’s testimony, Michael getting off for the abduction of faux Lupe. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601.md?page=2)