# Arrested Development second season premiere **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 8, 2004, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601 "2004-11-08T05:41:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/21 "2004-11-08T19:45:45Z")
Yeah, I don’t think that was really Michael Moore. They would have shown his face and made sure you knew it was him it was a guest cameo. Though that part was totally unexpected by me (in retrospect, I don’t know why ;)) and utterly hilarious. And Oscar showing up out of nowhere and getting the snot beat out of him all the time seemed fun. And there seemed to be some indication that Buster may have been Oscar’s kid. ---
**Author:** ![Airblairxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Airblairxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airblairxxx)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/22 "2004-11-09T00:52:21Z")
> [@watsonwil](#): > > What is great about this series, that you catch watching it on DVD and may miss watching it weekly, is that in the"on the next episode" segments, the scenes usually never appear in the next episode. > > Sometimes entire subplots are resolved by these segments and they never appear next week. E.g.- Ira Gilligan’s testimony, Michael getting off for the abduction of faux Lupe. The “On the next episode” segments never show up on the next episode. As you note, they are used to resolve subplots of that week’s episodes. If you own the season 1 DVD set, Mitchell Hurwitz explains that these were tossed into the pilot episode as a joke, and when Fox bought the series they were kept in. As for guest stars, how could I forget Kevin Mcdonald (\Kids in the Hall\) in the second-to-last episode of last year? And apparently [Martin Short](http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,274%7C91413%7C1%7C,00.html) will be showing up this year. Although I haven’t heard anything lately about the rumor that Justine Bateman, Jason’s sister, would make an appearance as Jason’s love interest (!!!). ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/23 "2004-11-09T02:30:01Z")
If that rumor is true, then that love affair better NOT have any kissing… ewww ---
**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/24 "2004-11-09T05:31:16Z")
It was hilarious. I laughed the whole way through. It has the best writing on TV. I like the scene with the second brother (always forget his name) getting approval by the board: “This looks like a $100 bill. Or is it 100 pennies?” (flash and pennies rain down. Board members scramble onto the table to gather up all of the pennies) I just love the absurdity of the portable staircase, which seems to make it into quite a few episodes. And the subtitle “Home of Chemical and Mrs. Ali” when showing the illegally constructed house. The little touches and the interfamily dynamics (especially with Kitty being the most manipulative bitch imaginable on top of everything) make the show. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/25 "2004-11-09T12:14:56Z")
I think you mean Lucille - Kitty is George’s faithful secretary that Gob tried to make-over for sex - “Hair UP. Glasses off. Alright, glasses on, hair down.” ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/26 "2004-11-09T14:06:23Z")
> [@Airblairxxx](#): > > The “On the next episode” segments never show up on the next episode. As you note, they are used to resolve subplots of that week’s episodes. If you own the season 1 DVD set, Mitchell Hurwitz explains that these were tossed into the pilot episode as a joke, and when Fox bought the series they were kept in. _Most_ of the time they don’t, but I can recall at least one episode where they did. The teaser where “catlike”" Dr. Tobias Funke (David Cross) breaks into Julia-Louis Dreyfuss’s house and she grabs the baseball bat appears the next week. Speaking of David Cross, add fellow Mr. Show host Bob Odenkirk to the list of cameos. Also, add the narrator’s legendary brother. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/27 "2004-11-09T15:55:42Z")
> [@watsonwil](#): > > Speaking of David Cross, add fellow Mr. Show host Bob Odenkirk to the list of cameos. He was the inept marriage counselor for Linsey and Tobias, who decided that he wanted to become an actor too! It was good fun to see Cross and Odenkirk riffing off each other again in those scenes. ---
**Author:** ![Airblairxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Airblairxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airblairxxx)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/28 "2004-11-09T17:27:43Z")
> [@watsonwil](#): > > _Most_ of the time they don’t, but I can recall at least one episode where they did. > > The teaser where “catlike”" Dr. Tobias Funke (David Cross) breaks into Julia-Louis Dreyfuss’s house and she grabs the baseball bat appears the next week. Huh. I’ll have to check my DVD set. > [@](#): > > Speaking of David Cross, add fellow Mr. Show host Bob Odenkirk to the list of cameos. > > Also, add the narrator’s legendary brother. The narrator’s legendary brother? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/29 "2004-11-09T17:39:35Z")
> [@Airblairxxx](#): > > The narrator’s legendary brother? Clint Howard. Can’t remember what episode he was on, though. ---
**Author:** ![Airblairxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Airblairxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airblairxxx)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/30 "2004-11-09T17:59:03Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Clint Howard. Can’t remember what episode he was on, though. Thank you! Johnny Bark. Now I remember. By the way, a really well-done fansite for _AD_ is the [Balboa Observer-Picayune](http://www.the-op.com/), if anyone is interested. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/31 "2004-11-09T18:01:18Z")
> [@watsonwil](#): > > Also, add the narrator’s legendary brother. The basic flaw to the Kevin Bacon game is that it should really be the Clint Howard game–had Bacon not been in “Apollo 13” with him half the connections would vanish. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/32 "2004-11-09T18:20:06Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > The basic flaw to the Kevin Bacon game is that it should really be the Clint Howard game–had Bacon not been in “Apollo 13” with him half the connections would vanish. Incorrect. The linchpin to the Kevin Bacon game is “Bob Roberts”. EVERYONE is in that movie. And the more important co-star from “Apollo 13” is Tom Hanks. ---
**Author:** ![Petey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f1d935/32.png) [@Petey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Petey)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/33 "2004-11-09T19:02:03Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Incorrect. The linchpin to the Kevin Bacon game is “Bob Roberts”. EVERYONE is in that movie. Also “JFK”. It’s almost cheating to use that movie. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/34 "2004-11-09T19:23:23Z")
> [@](#): > > LOS ANGELES ([Zap2it.com](http://Zap2it.com)) An Emmy victory for best comedy and ceaseless critical hosannas translated into improved, but not blockbuster, ratings for “Arrested Development.” > The series about a formerly wealthy and wildly dysfunctional Orange County family set series highs in total viewers (8.04 million) and adults 18-49 (4.0 rating) for a regularly scheduled episode with Sunday’s (Nov. 7) premiere, according to preliminary figures from Nielsen. Final ratings will be released Tuesday. > > The “regularly scheduled” distinction is key here because FOX aired an episode of “Arrested Development” after “American Idol” on a Wednesday last March, which 9.6 million people watched. That episode was classified as a special for Nielsen purposes, however, and didn’t count toward the show’s season averages. [LINK](http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271%7C91684%7C1%7C,00.html) ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601/35 "2004-11-09T19:27:17Z")
> [@Petey](#): > > Also “JFK”. It’s almost cheating to use that movie. We had a “no using J.T. Walsh” rule. That is the key to the Kevin Bacon game! He is a one step link to SHAQ! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrested-development-second-season-premiere/273601.md?page=1)