# Arrogant clueless store owner meets brick wall of reality with face
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-clueless-store-owner-meets-brick-wall-of-reality-with-face/560527
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 13, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-clueless-store-owner-meets-brick-wall-of-reality-with-face/560527 "2010-11-13T03:48:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author:  [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-clueless-store-owner-meets-brick-wall-of-reality-with-face/560527/141 "2010-11-26T23:10:54Z")
> [@gaffa](#):
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> How very true. In my experience, rich people get that way by the simple expedient of not giving any money to anyone else. If I had a thousand dollars for every millionaire who has whined about what I charge for my services or product…why, I’d be a millionaire!
You’re forgetting the other part of people getting rich, being good at getting other people’s money. In that spirit have you considered any whining fees?
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### Author:  [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-clueless-store-owner-meets-brick-wall-of-reality-with-face/560527/142 "2010-11-27T03:12:32Z")
> [@acsenray](#):
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> There’s an argument that “ear-marks and pork barrel spending” is exactly what a legislature is _supposed_ to do.
It’s true this argument exists. It’s also very stupid and the people who make are covering for gross corruption and the long-term decline of government.
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### Author:  [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-clueless-store-owner-meets-brick-wall-of-reality-with-face/560527/143 "2010-11-27T03:31:32Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> It’s true this argument exists. It’s also very stupid and the people who make are covering for gross corruption and the long-term decline of government.
Well I think it’s an example of the conflict of a large interest inherent in our political system. Each congress person has a duty to represent the the interests of their state, while the entire congress body has a duty to represent the interests of the country which all the members share.
If a state can get a head by screwing the rest of the country, well that’s a conflict of interest.
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### Author:  [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2010, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-clueless-store-owner-meets-brick-wall-of-reality-with-face/560527/144 "2010-11-27T04:36:26Z")
I thought the definition of “pork” was “tax dollars that go to someone else’s district or state”.
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### Author:  [@Raiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raiko)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-clueless-store-owner-meets-brick-wall-of-reality-with-face/560527/145 "2010-12-08T03:42:09Z")
> [@LouisB](#):
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> You mention both fences and cages which are not compatible with the idea of “free range” and I question their compatibility with “organic.” I doubt most people in the USA today have any real idea of what “organic” means nor do they remember with what delight modern fertilizers were greeted when “organic” farming / gardening was, for the most part, abandoned.\*
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> \*For instance, you refer to “chicken/tractor” pens; you need to substitute “shovels and scoops” for “tractor pens”. You will then have an idea of what original organic farming involved but only if you yourself wield the shovels and scoops. No offense is intended nor is any part of this post to be considered a personal attack.
Actually I think it is you who are confusing the ideas of “organic” and “free range” with “traditional”. Organic is the idea that no unnatural chemicals are used in the preservation and packaging of the food and Free Range is the idea that no confining pens are used to permenantly house the animals though they can still return to stables or coops to escape predators at night and still be considered free range. The use of modern equipment is still acceptable in both so long as it doesn’t interfere with the principle of organic or free range.
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